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Highly classified in Ariadna : how do you do ?

Discussion in 'Ariadna' started by Arkhos94, Mar 27, 2018.

  1. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    My next tournament will include highly classified. I hesitate between taking my Aleph vanillaand my Ariadna vanilla army there and highly classified is the tipping point.

    Ariadna have plenty of weakness on this one :
    - no 0 SWC hacker and the ones you can take (wardriver, isobel) will be here only in case of hacker classified(s)
    - no cube troop to heal so doing the experimental drug classified is a 2/3 of a chance roll at best
    - only the muls can be repaired

    So, how do you play Highly classified with you ariadnan (do you even try ?) ? What list/strategy do you use ?
     
  2. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    1. That's not a common thing though, with the obvious exception of KHD and Zoe. Is SWC really that big of an issue when playing Ariadna though? My friend seems to complain that he's almost unable to spend SWC but perhaps that's because he's playing Caledonia so what do I know.

    2. No idea, the only ludicrous example I can think of is Wallace but risking yourself to go V:NWI seems like a bad plan.

    3. I played against an opponet once, he used the Uragan MRL aggressively, escorted by Irmandhos. It forced me to ARO because I couldn't ignore a burst 3 weapon and when it failed to win a ftf roll, he repaired it back up again with a nearby Irmandho. He then left it midfield, where it was quite annoying with TR.
     
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  3. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Highly classified is an easy mode for Vanilla Aleph, so the comparison is quite hard to make, just the Sophotect covers tons of classifieds, and a mk1+mk2 hacker posthuman gives both redundancy and extra missions. Then we reach the Elite 20 pts AD trooper (Ekdromoi), fast remotes (dakini Paramedic), the sacrificial Devabots, etc...

    So the question is more like "what are the other missions", and "do you wanna play easy mode?" ^^
     
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  4. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    The other mission are Transmission Matrix and Capture and Protect (non-ITS tournament). Both can be done easily with Ariadna or Aleph (mostly brute force mission), which make highly classified the key here.

    The reward for the winner is the special O'yoroi and competition will be strong so it's not that I want to play easy mode, it's that I need to be as competitive as I can
     
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  5. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Aleph then gives you more toys to play with, I think. Ariadna gives you access to cheap anti-armor weapons and unhackable troops, but Aleph has tons of options for all three... if you choose the SWC expenditures wisely.
     
  6. Cthulhu Fhtagn!

    Cthulhu Fhtagn! Active Member

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    1) Well, USARF can be quite SWC expensive. Blackjacks, Minuteman & Marauder (especially when you use them as a Haris link team) will raise your SWC really fast. DHD Wardriver only for the hacker classifieds seems inevitable.

    2) Yep... and only because there will be one "shock" bullet with his name on it. On the upside: Our Grunts and Minuteman are shock immune! Call the 112's, because there will be bodys.

    3) Exactly what i planned for my upcomming "highly classified", minus irmandhos...
     
  7. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    I can sympathize with your situation as I also play Ariadna and Aleph. I‘d agree that it is objectively easier to play Highly Classified with Vanilla Aleph, but I think there is no reason to be discouraged from playing Ariadna. I won Highly Classified using Ariadna on the last three large tournaments (including the last two Interplanetarios IIRC) I took them to. And they were all 5 mission tournaments, so there wasn‘t much room to taylor the lists to Highly Classified.

    I dont have the lists in my ITS anymore, but they revoled around typical units like Spetsnaz, Chasseurs, Foxtrotts, Volunteers, Dozer and Muls for Baggage (essential for large tournaments), Irmas, 112, some LI Paramedic, Uxia, Dog Warrior, Isobel or Wardriver, Antipodes.

    I think the key point is that we tend to have a lot of orders and have several options to assasinate enemy key specialists (Uxia, Dog Warrior, Van Zant, Antipodes). We can easily afford redundant specialists and we can protect the HVT well with loads of camo, mines and chain rifles. We also have plenty of smoke, which can make games quite easy after a e.g. a Spetsnaz takes out enemy MSV2 snipers.
     
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  8. Kreslack

    Kreslack Unknown Ranger lead the way!

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    The only classifieds I struggle with are the hacking ones. Cause I generally hate having to take a wardriver (though in my tighter indoor boards that shotgun has been pretty handy) he usually has such a huge target on his head.

    USAridna tends to struggle with engineer/d-charges since until we got Rosie the Dozer was the only option.

    Mind you if you have access to spec ops that does help shore up a few holes.

    I also thought you could use paramedics to accomplish experimental drug. Which isnt to hard to have around if you need a backup option.
     
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  9. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    Keep in mind that dead specilaists accomplish no objectives.
    Hunt the enemy specialists down and your job is half done. (Oh, and obviously: kill enemy troopers dead and destroy enemy REMs to prevent your opponent from healing/repairing them.)
    Surely Ariadna is a bit handicapped in this mission because of lack of repeater network and lack of viable friendy targets for our hackers. Katyusha/Uragan is a nice option for this.
    Isobel McGregor armed with T2 rifle rocks in this mission (D-charges!). Will not break the bank and doubles as a competent gunfighter and a capable objective solver.
     
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  10. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    Isobel is a cool choice in any case. I prefer the cheaper version for the Assault Pistol. Dcharges and Hacker go a long way, but we tend to have so many rifles in the midfield due to our camo FOs, I really appreciate her being dangerous with in 8“ as well as having a flash pulse ARO up to 24“. Oh and dont forget the emauler
     
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  11. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Our mul are unlikely to get hit. We can repair a still-conscious mul. If we do, does it count as a pass for test run ? Or do we need to have them get unconscious first (fail-repair could be a way).
     
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  12. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    Adding to Isobel: @Tristan228 just pointed out to me that she has a White Hacking device, which gives her sixth sense lvl1, which makes her even a bit tougher.
     
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  13. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    It's not a real Sixth Sense L1 though. E.g. Stealth is still applied.
     
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  14. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    That's the reason why you should either park the Uragan next to your HVT or field a plethora of camo infiltrating FOs accompanied by a Katyusha. If your enemy doesn't want to attack your REMs, give him a reason!
    Oh, and remember to park a couple of Irmies next to the REMs in order to smoke the damaged REM up to keep your enemy from destroying it!
     
  15. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    As far as I know you cannot attempt to repair a non-damaged REM hoping to fail the roll (similar to healing) but I cannot find the corresponding rule.
     
  16. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    You can, the only requirement for Engineer is to be base to base. Doctor have the additional requirement of the target being unconscious
     
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  17. prophet of doom

    prophet of doom Well-Known Member

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    Just by pure dumb luck. If you pick the wrong classifieds, you are screwed. You don't have good hackers, no ghost bots for doctors and engineers, second rate remotes to repair, etc. I hate that mission. For some reason, I played it twice and won both times. This is what I did: I was lucky getting cards that did not require a hacker and no engineer. I killed everybody and was lucky enough to get a trooper wounded next to my doctor. Then I was lucky that I made the healing roll.

    I won this game once at a tournament with Caledonia. I had a doctor and a forward observer in my list. I was too proud to make up a list which would be bad for other missions but just had a trak mul and an engineer to repair it. Just in case I draw that card. Because if I didn't, my list would be shit for no reason, and I have to play another game with it as well.
     
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