Hatail Aelis Keesan update!

Tema en 'Tohaa' iniciado por Cothel, 7 Mar 2018.

  1. Engorn

    Engorn Mariscal de Campo del Tridente Tohaa
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    Yes for me.

    We are going to start a league which missions are the Dire Foes ones. I was doubting between Steel Phalanx and Tohaa because I like Trasymedes a lot, but now... Is gonna be Tohaa for sure.
     
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  2. yojamesbo

    yojamesbo purchaser of car seats

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    I still think Regeneration is a useless skill that should be removed from the game entirely. That aside, the access to Sensor is nice, and now she's a hard counter to Hackers rather than a derpy point sink. A WIP 14 KHD is nothing to sniff at. It's enough to get me to at least try using her in some lists and see how it goes.

    Which is miles ahead of the place she occupied in my plans this time yesterday. ;-)
     
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  3. DeadlyOcean

    DeadlyOcean SCAF Maelstrom Crew/Korean A! Manager/Sygmaa Spy;)

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    for me, she has her own position in Triad setting.
     
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    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    Highly Classified this weekend, i'll test it :)
     
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    Magonus Well-Known Member

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    Wombat85 Well-Known Member

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    BS12 cybermask viral or K1 combi makes her a solid hunter
     
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  7. Magonus

    Magonus Well-Known Member

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    I mean, I'll take her. She's much better than previously. So, thanks! But Killer Hackers are one of these things like Mimetism that are easy to throw on a subpar profile to "fix" it.

    Whereas the real problems–Defensive Hacking, AutoMedikit, Regeneration, Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, etc–go unaddressed, and remain a problem wherever they are.
     
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  8. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    The imp state might well make traingulated fire more viable, if rather order intensive.
     
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  9. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    At least DHDs are nearly gone, just the Wardriver left.
     
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    sorniak Well-Known Member

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    Can you make triangulated fire (long skill) with surprise attack (short skill) - I don't think that they work together, unfortinatly ;(
     
  11. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    Right but half the issue with using Tf is getting into position to use it.
     
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    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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    I am shocked, just straight shocked.
     
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    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    On one hand, you can maybe try to cover your TAG / HI a bit better. On the other hand, no repeater coverage makes it rather impractical idea, while this change spreads KHD cancer even further.
     
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  14. Alkasyn

    Alkasyn Well-Known Member

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    No. You're getting a Sukeul for the same cost or a Sakiel for less.

    As always with Aelis - Pass.
     
  15. ChoTimberwolf

    ChoTimberwolf Artichoken Friend

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    I think for highly classified she is great and otherwise she is a decent hacker with a decent weapon loadout, for most jobs sakiel or sukeul are better
     
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  16. D6Damager

    D6Damager Well-Known Member

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    I think she will be auto-include for me in Acquisition, Deadly Dance, Highly Classified, Supremacy, and Transmission Matrix.
     
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  17. yojamesbo

    yojamesbo purchaser of car seats

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    Sukeuls can't explode the head of a hacker hiding on a rooftop from halfway across the table.

    I get that she doesn't scream "TAKE ME" in every situation, but Aelis definitely has her uses now. And even if you never use her, Aelis's mere existence now means that opponents will no longer be able to just assume that Tohaa pose no threat to their hacking game as they're deploying.

    We do have Bombs, but Redrum is far more of a threat to enemy hackers than a Bomb using Endgame (which is basically a one-use Brain Blast).

    In her active turn against a Hexa Hacker (not KHD) who AROs with Brain Blast, Aelis will inflict 1+ wounds with Redrum 74.58% of the time, and 2+ wounds 60.90% of the time. A WIP 14 Tohaa using Endgame sees those numbers reduced to 54.23% and 14.42% respectively. Oh, and Aelis can attack them through their own repeaters, too. And if they make their saves? She can attack again.

    On the flip side, Bombs can hit non-hackers. So it depends on what you're looking for.

    But if you're looking to off sneaky hackers, Aelis is straight up better at it than Bombs. She's not the right tool for every circumstance, but she has her niche.
     
    #57 yojamesbo, 23 Mar 2018
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  18. borings

    borings Well-Known Member

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    Ok so put her in a triad with a sakiel with nimbus plus, find a spot where she can triangulated fire multiple targets, use cybermask to get into position, and then get to work?

    That being said, id still rather take two makauls or a sukeul for around the same points. She needs to get to the low 20s before she is actually viable.
     
    #58 borings, 24 Mar 2018
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  19. Engorn

    Engorn Mariscal de Campo del Tridente Tohaa
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    Can she use cybermask while being part of a triad (and continue being part of it while impersonated)?
     
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  20. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    No, entering a Marker state will boot you from the link.

    http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Fireteam_Integrity
     
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