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Hassassin Escalation

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by ambisinister, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    I'm super new to Haqq (I'm coming from Yu Jing) and it seemed like joining an escalation league would be a good opportunity to get my feet wet with the faction, as it were. Based on everything i've read on the forums, my instinct, especially at the lower point rounds, is to leverage our access to low cost troops but I'm wondering if I'm overvaluing the strength of the Daylami and the Mutts. The list I'm batting around looking like these, but I'm wondering if I'm going in the wrong direction.

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
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    [​IMG]3 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] MUYIB (X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)
    [​IMG] MUYIB Rifle + Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] MUYIB Rifle + Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    2 SWC | 96 Points

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    3 man Muyib core feels pretty resilient, but i'm low on regular orders.

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    [​IMG]5 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    2 SWC | 97 Points

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    4 man+ Leila Ghulams gives me more regular orders to work with, but isn't quite as potent as the Muyibs, especially if the HMG goes down. I can massage the points, lose the Mutt and get a doctor in the link (or drop a daylami and put a panzerfaust ghulam in there and a doctor).

    Am I going in the right direction? Should I try and get a Farzan in there? Mines and camo could be a nice boon at low points. Something like this:

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    [​IMG]5 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] FARZAN (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)

    2 SWC | 100 Points

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  2. Balewolf

    Balewolf It's all opinion

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    I'm liking the 2nd list more, but I'd do a little change.

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    [​IMG]5 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] GHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    1.5 SWC | 99 Points

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    The first list just doesn't have enough orders to get stuff done. This list gives you all the orders you need to get your Ghazi across the board turn 1, and has a little bit of ARO as well. Without having objectives in the early missions of escalation leagues, you can pretty much just castle and corner guard. The doc can really help in these low point missions as well.

    Are you going to be playing on a smaller board or the 4x4?
     
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  3. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I will tell you from experience that a Fiday at that low points will absolutely wreck everything you are going to face...

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
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    [​IMG]5 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    1 SWC | 99 Points

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  4. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    For an escalation event, will you be using hackers? If not, Leila is great, but you won't use her full potential. I probably like list 3 the most. Muyib are awesome, but order efficiency is more important to me. (I love them in 300 pt games).

    Daylami are great, but more of a speed-bump than anything else. I usually have 1 for every 100 points I'm playing.

    Ghazi are just lovely little tools - you will fall in love. I usually run 3-4. Not sure if they'll allow that in your escalation event either though.
     
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  5. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    That's a good question, I assumed we'd be doing 4x4 but it's probably worth checking with the TO.
     
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  6. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    @oldGregg We're following the escalation rules right out of the ITS 9 packet, so that means no hacking until round 4, which I was expecting. My thought behind including Leila was to get the link up to 5, plus she's a slightly better shot and has that shock rifle. So I didn't super mind that her KHD would go unused. As far as Mutts go, I haven't been told that there's going to be any restriction on unit selection.

    @theGricks I had considered the Fiday. I'm used to using that kind of model (though i suspect in some ways the Fiday is more fragile than an Oniwaban) but I know my first round opponent is using Tohaa and that nerfs impersonation slightly and as a result I was considering leaning away from it for this round and why I was considering something like a Farzan.

    Thank you all for the responses. It gives me a lot to think about! List building for Haqq is, obvisouly, a much different experience from Yu Jing and I'm liking the challenge. Maybe challenge isn't the right word, but I think you know what I mean.
     
  7. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    Fiday and impersonation is still fantastic against Tohaa. Especially at low point levels.

    If you want to avoid that and play Leila, I would try something like this:

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
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    [​IMG]5 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] GHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    1 SWC | 100 Points
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    If you want another regular order and nothing crazy, maybe this:

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
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    [​IMG]6
    [​IMG] GHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] GOVAD Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    1 SWC | 100 Points
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    I never run Govads, but if you are on a small board, I might toss that msv1 bsg in my list.
     
  8. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    Well, this seems like as good a place as any to keep track of my thoughts and experiences as I play through the league. @oldGregg 's enthusiastic support of the Fiday won me over to I built a list with him and he didn't disappoint. I completed round 1 by tabling my opponent and losing only a Mutt in exchange (poor guy, smoke dodge doesn't really help against a Gao Rael). My opponent brought two Triads, list under the spoiler if you're interested.
    [​IMG] Tohaa
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] GAO-RAEL Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1 | 31)
    [​IMG] KAMAEL Paramedic (Medikit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] KAMAEL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] SAKIEL Combi Rifle, Nimbus Plus Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] KAMAEL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] MAKAUL Heavy Flamethrower, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, Viral CCW. (0 | 13)

    1 SWC | 100 Points

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    Mutts: Played no role in this match. One died in his first activation, the other wasn't quick enough to get to the party to make a difference.

    Ghulams: Nothing much to say here, performed as well as expected. The HMG took out the Gao Rael and then they didn't do anything for the rest of the match.

    Fiday: MVP definitely goes to this guy. The sakiel, makaul, and kamael triad were convenient huddle in a boarding shotgun sized line and the fiday made quick work of them before dropping back into impersonation. The next round he took advantage of his marker state to finish off my foe's remaining troops. His ability to deploy right outside an enemy's deployment zone without a roll makes him much more reliable than an oniwaban and I can definitely see the appeal of the unit.


    Round 2 bumps us up to 120 points and my first thoughts are to keep the current list and either add Leila to get the Ghulams up to a 5 man link or to add a minelaying Farzan. Based on the success of the Fiday, I'm inclined to take the Farzan because another midfield skirmisher with a boarding shotgun and a marker state feels like it will be punishing in this point bracket.
     
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  9. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    Glad you enjoyed the Fiday! You should post your list so we can take a peak. Or was it the list posted by @theGricks ?

    Now moving up in points, always keep in mind your other Fiday options. The BSG is sweet, but the AP mine profile is probably the most widely useful. (I often take it if I'm not entirely sure what I'm up against, playing a zone of control mission, or when I know the Fiday will be effectively counter-deployed). All the profiles are awesome when applied to the right situation. Just remember to not lean too heavily on the piece, as your opponents will most likely catch on and start shutting it down.

    Even when this happens, the very fact that they are so focused on a ~30 point threat is reason enough to field it. Haqq is all about creating opportunities and trading up.

    And I promise your Mutts will have their day in the spotlight.
     
  10. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    It was a slight variation on the one that @theGricks (whom I should also thank for the suggestion. thank you!) suggested. With one point and 1 SWC laying around I decided to upgrade a ghulam to LGL in the very unlikely scenario that I'd need it.

    [​IMG] Wiz Escalation 1
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    [​IMG]5 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] GHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 13)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    2 SWC | 100 Points

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    So if I build my round 2 list to this point:
    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
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    [​IMG]6
    [​IMG] GHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] FARZAN (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)

    1 SWC | 112 Points

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    That leaves me with 8 points to spare. That could be a daylami. That could be a Mutt, the return of the LGL Ghulam and an upgrade to any of the other Fiday profiles. I could swap out the Farzan for a lone Govad or Muyib, but that doesn't seem like it would be as effective. I guess with 20 points we could also add 2 more Mutts and a Daylami, but it occurs to me now that asymmetric trading (which I understand to be one of Haqq's strong suits) is not as powerful in low point matches.
     
  11. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    Your next round is at 120 points, not 150?
     
  12. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    Yes. We're playing per the ITS pack:

    round 1: 100 point annihilation
    round 2: 120 point annihilation
    round 3: 150 point annihilation now with Lts!
    round 4: 200 point annihilation now with Advanced Rules and classified objectives!
    round 5: 250 point annihilation now with Spec Ops!
    round 6: 300 point antenna capturing now with Retreat!
     
  13. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    The Djanbazan HMG is a monster, especially when you drop smoke to hide him and shoot through it.

    [​IMG] Haqqislam
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    [​IMG]5 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] DJANBAZAN HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    2 SWC | 120 Points
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    *If you aren't allowed a nasmat, a warcor is awesome - maybe just take a warcor, regardless.
     
  14. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    While I would love to take a Djanbazan, I'm locked into Hassassin Bahram for the league.
     
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    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    Totally forgot!

    120 points is weird. Maybe try a Lasiq?

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
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    [​IMG]5 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] LASIQ Viral Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] GHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    2 SWC | 120 Points
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    Part of me would just wan to load up on dudes:

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] LASIQ Viral Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    2 SWC | 120 Points
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    There's various ways to do this, all of them sacrificing neat tricks like the Fiday. You B3 rifles seem just as good at this point level as a HMG. Shotguns are cool too. The viral rifle could be devastating if you park it in central cover and drop into suppression. Enemy shoots you at -9 before their own mods.
     
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    You guys keep coming up with things that I fail to consider. I haven't put a lot of thought into the rifle option for Lasiqs.

    Ultimately I do enjoy playing aggressively and the Fiday is nice for that. At 120 I think i'm looking for a piece that can serve as back up if the Fiday gamble fails. So Farzan? Lasiq? Lone Muyib? Lone Govad? 5 man bonus for the Ghulams? Muyib and Govad don't seem worth it. Farzan, Lasiq, and 5 man Ghulam all have merit. It's a lot to think about.

    Thank you guys again for all the help!
     
  17. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    Lasiq are cool, but 4-2 MOV can hurt. For back-up attack piece in hassassins, I would honestly go for an Ayyar SMR or R+EM if you can somehow justify the points. Leila is a good little hunter with the SMR.

    I would work on this a lot more before running it, but the viral pistols on the Ayyar have helped win me too many games to count.

    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
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    [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] ÁYYĀR (Surprise Shot L2) Rifle + E/Mitter, D.E.P. / 2 Viral Pistols, CCW, Knife. (0 | 37)
    [​IMG] FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)

    2 SWC | 119 Points

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    *EDIT
    If you can use fireteams, I would try something like this:
    [​IMG] Hassassin Bahram
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
    [​IMG] LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

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  18. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    Fireteams are legal. And I have been chomping at the bit to use an Ayyar, but thought it'd be prudent to wait until I got a few more points to play with. I'm definitely gonna try and squeeze him in at 150. I like having more models on the table than my opponent, particularly at these low point levels (it's not something i'm used to!) so I do want to take advantage of Mutts and Daylami. (and I know it's a bit gimmicky, but I am looking forward to at least one coordinated Daylami panzerfaust salvo at something.
     
  19. HardDisk

    HardDisk Well-Known Member
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    i don't like Govads alone too much (except the Govad HMG that can deal with a lot of problems), but sometimes i pick one or another Muyib by itself, normally the LGL (Lt sometimes) or HRL for ARO duty.

    And the Lasiq Viral rifle can go middle field for suppression, if he lives another turn (its not THAT hard) you can flank your adversary and shoot people above 16' with no cover on BS12, using that x-visor a bit more.
     
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  20. HardDisk

    HardDisk Well-Known Member
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    Just to make myself clear, i love Govads 5-man links, they're awesome for long range dominance. Haris defensive Govads are good too, but i find Sniper and ML expensive for ARO duty without Haris/Core.