Giving breaker ammo to the sniper and HMG would be a cool way to show RTF biotech and distinguish the Zhayedan as a unit.
Nah, the models are already sculpted and every weapon looks like the ones we got so far. Yet the profiles need some tweaking because they haven't changed since N3 release. In vanilla the BR fights for the spot with the Lasiq VR+LS and since MI got FD1 this ITS, I havent use the Zhayedan this season.
Do we know how Breaker Sniper Rifle looks? :P But yeah, it's likely there would be a noticeable difference.
I'd really like for all Zhayedan to get MML2 just because it'd make the current non MML2 profiles so much more useable. Limit them to Haris teams if you like, just feels like half the load outs are so pillow fisted.
I'm honestly not sure extra limitations are justified just because of what's basically a +3 mod in a slugfest (non-BR profiles don't get extra saves on hit). Core/Haris Fireteams with Mimetism (or mimetic inclusions in mixed links) exist left and right these days, after all, and a lot of them consist of cheaper stuff and/or are parts of generally cheaper armies. Yes, sometimes they run into MSV, if that's the reasoning behind why that's okay, but by the same token sometimes you will run into out of cover opponents. Probably not very often, but at least it's not a matchup-specific thing, unlike MSV.
In a world where it's possible to have a mimetic, MML2 HMG Dakini in a link I'm not sure having MML2 on the Zhayedan HMG would be that bad.
I've pondering the whole week about what makes Haqq a shady faction like the others in the Infinity universe. Yes, we have the Muzhafiz who has little control over Hassassins and the Old man of the mountain when should be the opposite, QK employs several mercenaries among the lowest scum (Bashis, Yuan Yuans, Druzes...) and corsair ships to help enforzing the silk route. But RT can't be shady at all because it's just the military, right? We know that the Haqqislamite army is the biggest in term of number of soldiers of the sphere, but then, if you have the numbers advantage, why Haqq needs to enhance soldiers to serve in the army? We know that the Runihura proyect was completely voluntary and the Haqq scientists are very different from Bakunin's, but I don't believe that every test subject developed as intended (Capitain Islam himself was an unexpected result of the program). My point is: Is it licit to genetically enhance your own soldiers in order to surpass the other great powers? How's that O-12 allows those practices? Is Haqqislamite society so used to bio-enhancements that this seems normal to them? Brothers of the faith, I would like to hear your thoughts about this.
1) We also use shotguns and viral weapons. Haqqislam doesn't seem particularly interested in following the rules of O12. 2) While unexpected fluctuations happen, the programs aren't blind guesses and random experiments. They are overseen by doctors in full command of their art, shaping and molding these soldiers in imitation of the Artisan who shapes and molds us all. The goal is not to equal the other forces of the Sphere, but rather to perfect these clayey lodgings in as far as it is possible.
Wauw... It took me a disturbing amount of time before realising WHY I couldn't understand what kind of Arabic letters your avatar were depicting, if it was a badly written "T" or something..
It's mentioned in RPG book, that Haqqislamites do not welcome extreme visible biomods unlike those Bakunians. However, it does not mean, that other kinds are unwelcomed too.
Well, wish me luck tomorrow, o sheiks, for I'm going with my "vanilla RTF" (though we agreed upon allowing Fireteams) against Military Orders in a Frostbyte mission. Hopefully, it is the last time I'm doing that before RTF proper is revealed!
We assumed that Ghilim, Zhayedan and Khawarij will be able to compose a Fireteam: Core each on their own. Tarik could be included into any fireteam. We have no knowledge what other troop types will be able to form Fireteams, and what kind of mixed Fireteams will be available, so that's it. Now, I hope my esteemed opponent will do what I asked him for, and not check this thread. Spoiler: The list Haqqislam ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 TUAREG Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33) TUAREG Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35) GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17) GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) GHULAM (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) MAGHARIBA MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 78) MAGHARIBA PILOT Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. () ZHAYEDAN (Marksmanship L2) Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31) TARIK MANSURI AP Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser, Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 53) 4.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army As you can see, I have a defensively buildt Ghulam Fireteam. I wanted a Sniper Rifle rather than Forward Observer in it, but couldn't fit the points. The Maghariba is intended to be my Datatracker - seems to be no rules preventing it, and it is certainly the most durable of my models. The two Touaregs are intended to be my primary Specialists for activating the consoles. I'd prefer two Hackers, but couldn't afford it. At least I'll have a good Doc forward, should Tarik fall there and be revivable. Couldn't afford Tarik with a Spitfire, either. The Zhayedan Sniper seemed to be the only sensible model to fit into the #10 slot - with Limited Insertion and 4 potentially active models, I couldn't afford a Khawarij to be the 5th, and I wanted it to be more than just a cheerleader.
I would take the Hakim over the Zhayedan sniper for late game craziness, and then swap out for a ghulam sniper, but that list looks fun!
Well, to sum it up: Spoiler: I ended up facing something like this Military Orders ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 SERAPH Spitfire, Nanopulser + AUXBOT_3 / EXP CCW. (2 | 82) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) TRAUMA-DOC (Father-Doctor) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) MACHINIST (Father-Engineer) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) FATHER-KNIGHT Missile Launcher / Breaker Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 49) FATHER-KNIGHT Lieutenant Spitfire / Breaker Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 50) KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 38) ORDER SERGEANT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Got soundly defeated. I have yet to learn a few things about using Ramah troops - like: Maghariba being way less resistant than I expect it to - it took two bursts from the Father Officer's Spitfire to knock it out, despite having set up Suppressive Fire. Tarik was downed by the same FO Spitfire. But he managed to finish the wounded FO ML and then blast down him and the TraumaDoc. Actually Fatality L2 came into effect. Zhayedan managed to hit the FO ML, but was killed by second salvo. Ghulam Fireteam's ML wasn't successful against the FO ML (but it was Burst 2 on 14 or less vs. B 2 on 17-or less, that was up to luck).
To be honest I'm surprised how well that game went for me, despite losing Seraph before my first turn. Ramah could definitely use some more resilience. I know that I was facing a TAG list, and that Tarik is basically an ultra mobile, unhackable HI, but some more durable troops - especially able to link - would make Caliph's guard much tougher.
