Yeah. B3 in that particular case, which is quite good, especially considering BS13 and Surprise Attack (-6) :)
Also applies if someone within ZoC/LoF declares a hacking attack against you, even thought it's not a FtF roll. ... I don't think they thought this rule out very well.
Bang bombs sound like they would also be good for ninjas. The Ayyar remains an odd bird. Bang bombs gives it some much needed survivability. The addition of AP finally allows it to be useful against models it's pricepoint or higher. With the universal change of surprise attack becoming more useful, it can hopefully have a niche as a toolbox do everything unit.
I was thinking more about the AP rifle with burst 1 + triangulated fire... 4 shoots to 10s, no matter what sounds really interesting.
The Ayyar has always been an Odd one. However, it has always been one that I've enjoyed. While I'm sad it's lost Holoecho it gained Bangbomb. So, it lost some shenanigans in exchange for survivability. Note: I'm already calculating what shenanigans Tri-Fire will give it. Also, I find the name "Bangbomb" an almost Looney Tunes style name. Bangbomb! another fine product from the Acme Corporation.
It still has holoecho thanks to Holoproyector. What it has lost is Holomask, which honestly, was not of much use.
For the name, I am almost sure that it is meant to be a portmanteau of "Smokebomb!" and "Flashbang." Either way it is a cool bit of kit.
So certain profiles of Khawarijs, Asawira, Ayyar, Hortlak Jannisairs, Arslan will have access to Discoballer which provides Eclipse Smoke. Deactivators can be used reactivate the friendly Discoballer in later turns. If Sectorial units remain the same and N5 Vanilla list is correct: Vanilla: Khawarijs and Asawira Hassassins: Asawira and Ayyar RTF: Khawarijs and Horlak Jannisairs QK: Arslan This will add some flexibility for Haqqislam to avoid difficult AROs. I just hope that our Najjarun engineers finally get Deactivators in N5...
The only deactivactor present across all faction are the remotes. QK: burkut and kaplan RTF: monstrucker.
New Tarik Mansuri: I do not know what to make of his changes. He gained Immunity (ARM), spitfire become AP, BS Attack (-3), Warhorse, Improved CC penalties and super jump, Burst 2 Pulzar, and Combat Instinct. He did lose grenades, Immunity and additional BS damage. So it is easier for him to win firefights, but he doesn't do as much damage or have the same utility. The AP Rifle, Light Shotgun profiles seem to be just for either Tactical Awareness or additional SWC (like before). We have saved 4 points and get more resistance. I do think he will get more play, but unfortunately, he is now limited to RTF.
PS=5 wich IS its equivalente to old Damage? Viewing this profile we can speculate how khawarij could be. Cheers
Shooting Damage. N4 he had, DAM 15 AP Rifle, Shotgun, and Grenades or a DAM 16 Spitfire. I think the changes are great and gives him a better roll. He is now one of RTF's best shooters. I do hope Khawarij get some of these changes. It should be interesting.
It seems Immunity (ARM) may have replaced Bioimmunity on Khawarij units, if Tarik is one to go by. I am Okay with this.
So they lose the Damage bonus and Bioimmunity exchange for Immunity (ARM)? That could work if they get at least ARM 2. If they get that plus NWI and get AP weapons, I would be ok with that. Would mid-thirties be ok for that?
First, forgive me if I seem to be rambling a bit (it is a difficult morning, and caffeine & sugar are yet to do their job on me. It is by will alone that I set my mind in motion, of course, but it is by the juice of java that the thoughts acquire speed after all ;) ). Second, no, I don't think mid-30s would be acceptable price for a basic Khawarij. It is the price we pay right now for a Spitfire (34) Doctor (33) or CoC (33) Khawarijs. A MSV-equipped NCO Mk12 Khawarij stands at 38pts. I mean... there are two paths to follow... which CB may want to follow (and what we're trying to emulate here). One is - try to find what we want the Khawarijs to be. What niche in vanilla Haqq / respective sectorial (RTF, so far) are they meant to fill. The other, and more difficult, I guess, is facing the legacy of the Khawarijs in the original, in-house, CB Infinty RPG. They must have been quite a legend in it, one of the original Haqqislamite Supersoldiers[TM] ;) (memory serving, the other one in N1 were the much less showy - but ultimately more practical and easier to grasp on the tabletop - Djanbazan). And while Khawarijs obviously had some very impressive capabilities in the RPG, translating these into tabletoop wargame format has resulted in problems we are all too familiar with. Namely, turning them into rather pricey, kind of glass, and not exactly cannon. And, thus, not a popular choice in the list.
For khawarij I suppose they only have cc-3, maybe lose CD -3 and warhorse; has only Dodge +1". The rest of the habilites set would remain the same. They Will lose PS=5 in his Da Cc weapons. Probably the has arm 1 (2 if we are Lucky) and inmunity arm. With the point decrease, with 1 wound and inmunity shock (maybe cb Will add It), i expecte their points about 2x for the basic to 30 and a little.
Drop Bioimmunity, +1 Damage, Dodge +1". Combined with the general price decrease they could end up at 25 points for the base model. Add modern Duo and i would find it as enticing as Mukhtar
