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Hack the Planet! The Bakunin Jurisdictional Command Tactica

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by helsbecter, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. MattyG2787

    MattyG2787 Member

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    So my first crack at a list and heres where I’m at. My choice of Zoe and piwell is purely based on the fact I bought them as an impulse buy

    Harris and camo──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1 REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32) KUSANAGI Lieutenant Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43) BRAN DO CASTRO Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 33) BAKUNIN ÜBERFALLKOMMANDO undefined. (0 | 24) [​IMG] CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Viral CCW. (0 | 21) [​IMG] x3 PUPNIK DA CCW. (0 | 3) ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) ZOE & PI-WELL undefined. (0 | 47) [​IMG] ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28) [​IMG] PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19) TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2 ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) 4 SWC | 298 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
     
  2. kesharq

    kesharq Lucky Dice-Roller

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    This "impulse buy" was indeed a very very good choice! :) I really like them, a Zoe-buffed Pi-Well is a beast in active turn and ARO. And Zoe is the only SWC-free hacking device I know of.
     
  3. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    Yeah, Pi-Well is awesome, Zoe still has to convince me.
    @MattyG2787
    Your List is missing some range band diversity, that might cause you some trouble.
    Harris and camo
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    BAKUNIN ÜBERFALLKOMMANDO undefined. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Viral CCW. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] x3 PUPNIK DA CCW. (0 | 3)
    KUSANAGI Lieutenant Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)
    REVEREND HEALER Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 33)
    SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    ZERO (Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    ZOE & PI-WELL undefined. (0 | 47)
    [​IMG] ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    VERTIGO ZOND Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
    ZERO MULTI Sniper Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 26)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  4. McNamara

    McNamara Merc Rep

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    Yeah I feel that with a Moira link a Überfallkommando does add more then Morlocks, because MSV2 units can just as easily pick off Morlocks as they can the Moiras so the Überfall adds a great tool to get rid of such an obstacle.

    Another thing I am curious about is adding a Meteor Zond to a Moira Link with EM LGL, with FDlv1 it's pretty tempting and potentially devastating.

    Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
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    [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    KUSANAGI Lieutenant Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 34)
    REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 34)
    REVEREND MOIRA Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 36)
    REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    METEOR ZOND Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    BRAN DO CASTRO (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 37)
    MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    BAKUNIN ÜBERFALLKOMMANDO undefined. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Viral CCW. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] x2 PUPNIK DA CCW. (0 | 2)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    I added Bran to take care of threats to the Moiras, which leaves only points for a Morlock. Could also do it with 2 Zeros instead of them to be more conservative. Or Zoe and Pi-Well, though they don't add necessarily any supporting to the Moira link.
     
  5. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    The Meteor is honestly a pretty awesome value if you can swallow the SWC cost. I used to think it was dumb but after using it in 5-6 games it can be a real MVP. Super Jump is a nice touch
     
  6. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    The Meteor doesn't have Super Jump
     
  7. McNamara

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    I think it used too though. I noticed that the other day as well, but seem to remember it had at one point.
     
  8. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Would have had to have been pre-N3, this is right out of the N3 book. upload_2019-4-18_10-22-26.png
     
    #128 DukeofEarl, Apr 18, 2019
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  9. McNamara

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    Maybe it was maybe it wasn't, just looked at the old rulebook and it's not there either. I guess maybe the flying base just suggests it and the Ekdromos are the only superjumping AD troops. :/
     
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  10. MattyG2787

    MattyG2787 Member

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    So after thinking about a moira link, I’ve decided to go the riot grrl castle.
     
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  11. Hachiman Taro

    Hachiman Taro Well-Known Member

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    said every Bakunin player ever haha
     
    #131 Hachiman Taro, Apr 19, 2019
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  12. MattyG2787

    MattyG2787 Member

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    I’ve been challenged by the guy who helped me work out what to buy to use less/none grrrls to really see what can be done with bakunin. With my background in other games, he wants me to come from left field once I get a solid grasp on them.
    I’m up for the challenge. Soon
     
  13. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget about White Noise. The Custodier HD+ is really what takes away from a Moira Core and leads towards the Haris choice for me.
     
  14. MattyG2787

    MattyG2787 Member

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    So what are people’s thoughts on morlocke spam? Say 8 morlockes and a uberfell kommando unit split across two groups for some regular orders as well?
    Sprint forward. Lay down smoke and eclipse. Murder anything you can get to.
     
  15. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Warband spam is a thing in some metas, it is not a thing in other metas.

    I personally find the sweet point at 2-4 Morlocks with 1-2 Uberfalls.
     
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  16. MattyG2787

    MattyG2787 Member

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    So I understand, the chimeras are Ava 3 but I can still only take 3 pupniks total?
    So the other chimeras would be on their own?
     
  17. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Uberfalls are AVA3 each Uberfalls can have up to 3 Pups.

    Note the green tick of ITS validity.

    Yes this is probably not the way it's actually written.[​IMG]
     
  18. MattyG2787

    MattyG2787 Member

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    Oh my. That is definitely a thing.
    Into army builder I go
     
  19. Hachiman Taro

    Hachiman Taro Well-Known Member

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    Problem can be that Uberfalls are real active turn order hogs in my experience. So have diminishing returns where you don't have a whole group to feed each unit. I've used two Ubers successfully (esp with large order counts) but three is a hard ask for me at least, and they're my favourite unit.

    Whereas Morlocks are fine with few orders , since they are good at defensively trading in reactive as a skirmish line for their cost
     
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  20. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    I've never managed to figure out a list where three Uberfall looked workable. The order pool never looks any good... I normally don't worry much about tackling long-range ARO's (obligatory Fireteam Dude, TR bot) but if you're trying to have 17 orders and three Uberfall it's suddenly a huge problem.

    I'd love to take three but I don't know if there's an honest way to do it.