but real talk - just let the vargs link with the boygs - that would be cool as shit. there's your 'fix' right there. I'd let that duo be my wingmen anyday of the week.
as an aside - I think the mowang is a very different beast to the boyg. The mowang's got a visual mod but critically, it's got NCO and the Daoying Lt2 which gives it a bit more flex than the boyg. edit: to achieve 'similar' results, I think you've really got to lean on the Duo - which is like quinn
Hahaha sure mate, totally comparable units with the same role and targets of choice. Have fun not running units bro if you want.
Compared to the Yan Huo the Boyg gets: 4-2 Move becomes 4-4 Move +4CC +3BTS Hyperdynamics1 Multi-terrain Pistol replaced with Heavy Pistol Knife replaced with Shock CCW Cost increases by 3 As some have already outlined there are situations in which the SWC savings on the Boyg have value compared to alternative choices but ultimately any argument that the Boyg needs tweaking to be more desirable can also be made to the Yan Huo. Given that YJ are supposedly the HI specialist faction the argument should probably be made that the Yan Huo needs the updates substantially more. Or we accept the dissonance between the narrative of each faction and the rules that go with them? But that just feels lazy.
The Yu Jing "heavy infantry" bit as far as I can recall is never that they're the "heavy infantry specialist faction". It's that they have the numbers, by comparison.
Are we going to pretend the Yuan Ho doesnt have a multi hmg or HMRC? I mean if were just ignoring them that's fine, I just want to be clear.
yan huo only thing that matters: neurocinetics. as for the AD:LX for the boyg it makes sense since he have a low PH (well for a PanO HI), but it's up with hyperdynamics for dodging so the low PH could be a balance thing for a DA skill
The comparison was between the B2 active turn missile launcher profile of one and the B2 active turn missile launcher profile of the other. In short, the closest direct comparison that could be made. Neurocinetics costs pts for what is essentially a sidegrade on a unit that by the reckoning of the rest of this thread is already underwhelming. Of course the Yan Huo has other profiles such as the HMRC or MHMG but equally the Boyg has a 0SWC option which also has advantages. None of that stops the baseline profile of the Boyg being better. (It should be noted that I agree that the Boyg isn't good enough and doesn't have a clear role. My point is that other units suffer from this more and should be fixed first)
Well, they both go ''dakka dakka dakka'' and things go dead...so... Liberto targets of choice? Hunting season is open on everything :D
Okay, pardon for sidetracking, but... I am perfectly aware of the over-optimization of the Liberto for ARO purposes, but why does it sound like you're all saying the Liberto will kill a Boyg and it's equivalents in the active turn? Am I missing something? Is BS11 LimCamo DEP just that strong?
It's not a Core linked Missile ARO, but just relatively cheap to have the option available under a midfield Camo Marker and how often that can work. Similar to how strong a WIP13 Flashpulse ARO with 360 Visor is relative to a 3 point Warcor. Just very good bang for the buck. Against a Boyg the Libertos is oddly effective. S5 HI for 50+ points usually always has NWI/Dogged which massively reduces the chance to go down to a DEP or PZF.
I think the Boyg should be a micro TAG.... Since PanO is a mistake...ehh i mean the TAG Faction who makes Hi-Tech smaller He should cost 10ish more Points but has 3 STR instead of 2 Wounds, Tactical Awarness, Remote Presence and 6-4 movement. No Pilot and no Fatality L1 because he uses infantry weapons and is to small for carying a Crab Bot. Just very late night thoughts how the Boyg could have a cool PanOy Profile.
