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Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by ThananRollice, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Or the ones that are not true believers act along? the benefits are quite good, they should be a minority though.
     
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  2. Solar

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    Yeah but there's a difference between saying "oh yes I'm a true believer" and actually being one.

    Especially when being a true believer is a path to higher pay, better benefits, command roles, executive car etc
     
  3. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Like in a world where getting immortal life by donating money and attending services at the Corporate Religion you've signed up to is pretty common, I imagine lip service is very widespread :P
     
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  4. Pen-dragon

    Pen-dragon Deva

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    Yes but I imagine that those who are only paying lip service are more likely to pursue easier safer job opportunities within the church bureaucracy. Even in the military, there are a lot of non-combat roles, and the church is more than just a military. I also imagine in a unit that prides themselves on being the fearless and faithful defenders of humanity, that any soldier that displays any behavior that could be construed as less than total commitment, would quickly be retired from the unit.
     
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  5. Kahlain

    Kahlain Greeble-Faust investigator

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    In N3, does cubing allow them to read data on the cube? As in the Altered Carbon/Kovacs novels.
     
  6. AdmiralJCJF

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    According to the RPG, not in the Human Sphere.

    That's thought to be possible with the Voodoo Tech of the Combined Army 'though.

    It's easier to just load their personality in a digital environment and interrogate them there... like in Altered Carbon.
     
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  7. Hecaton

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    Has that changed? I thought that was the whole reason the Hassassins didn't have cubes.
     
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    No.

    But don't ignore that last part.

    Not having a cube means you can't be loaded in a virtual torture chamber and screwed with 'till you break. Because the magical powers of Envoys don't exist to let people deus ex machina their way out of inescapable scenarios.
     
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  9. Kahlain

    Kahlain Greeble-Faust investigator

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    Okay. So that sort of thing is possible in N3. How common is it? Is it reserved for "chats" with HVT's? Or does cube tech lend to virtual travel, training environments, phone calls, etc etc?

    Maybe a good Off Topic?
     
  10. Hecaton

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    See, this is why I think having a cube is a sucker's game in the Infinity universe.
     
  11. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Quite common, one can arrange a meeting with a deceased friend/ loved one/ relative/ quite easy, virtual interrogation of captured cubes will probably be extremely common and illegal, as would be the interrogation of people captured alive.
     
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    That's certainly one way of looking at it.

    Others would say it's a cheap price for literal immortality.

    Other than travel (and that only because integrating with a new L-Host requires direct intervention from ALEPH or equivalent support) that all exists in the world.
     
  13. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Eh, also shows a childlike fear of death. Honestly, the older I get the less I want to live forever.
     
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    You've been seduced by the song of the reaper.

    Don't give in, it's a lie.

     
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  15. Golem2God

    Golem2God Just a Kooky Kumotail serving others.

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    Something that God particularly hates & despises.
     
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  16. Golem2God

    Golem2God Just a Kooky Kumotail serving others.

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    Pretty much sums up the average take in the Infinity universe concerning Death.
     
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  17. Solar

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    But if you don't believe, and you live in a society where the best way to live forever is to appear to be a good Christian, then what difference does it make?

    All I'm saying is that the whole thing is set up to be very profitable for the Neovatican Corp, because your faith is measured in donations. "Save your money, save your soul" is the advertisement sound bite of the Neovatican Bank! We aren't talking about a purely religious order here. We're talking about a business. Faith is a consumer product, purchased through donations, and your loyalty card's ultimate benefit is living forever. Why join the PanO military when joining the Church Orders is so much better paid and has much better benefits? Just say what everyone knows you have to, and reap the benefits!
     
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    Indulgences exist today.

    There are lists of things which Catholics should do which are beneficial for them if they wish to attain salvation.

    While donating money to righteous causes IS on that list, it's not considered to be particularly efficacious.

    Good works are largely works done for the benefit of others within your community, which is as true in the Infinity setting as it is in our world.

    Your comical biases against the church aside, you are literally failing to read the basic setting information available on the matter.
     
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  19. psychoticstorm

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    As with most of the fluff I do not think any of the institutions in Infinity religious or otherwise have anything in common with the real equivalent of our world and are open to each individuals interpretation within the context of a fictional world, the Neovatican for sure has no connection with a real Catholic Church (or Orthodox for that matter, they merged after all) and it is debatable if they would function in the same way as the real contemporary equivalent, in whole or in part.
     
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    You can keep saying that forever, but the function of the list of deeds in the setting is identical to an existing institution of the Church so... yeah.