Well, I'll have the opportunity to test it on my own skin. So far even our resident CJC player says that he doesn't understand why CB decided to buff CJC so much.
So what? I don't understand why Kusanagi didn't get Shock Immunity. I don't understand why Wildcats became Grenzers 1.5. I don't understand why with Wildcats we lost our cheap BS13-Trooper starting from 17 Points. Now our cheapest one is … Wild Bild …
Kusanagi is unchanged because they want to overhaul some stuff later on and sell a new sculpt. That's just the way of it. That, and I don't know, CB is bored of her? It's the same profile as N2, basically, the only thing that's changed is the MOV and the rules surrounding her skills/equipment. Wildcats were forced up in price because they would become Kamaus all over again and they needed MI to have some kind of specialisation other than being cheap.
Problem is solved, Kusanagi just got SI and Morans splitted the profiles in Repeaters and Limited Camo ones … So, the whole PanO whining can stop instantly. I still don't like the new Wildcats. Bring back the old Wildcats. I liked them. I even fielded them.
CB: Forums, there is wormsign approaching your harvester! Forums: Sire, we can't leave all this salt! CB: Damn the salt! And yes, these Wildcats are a might too expensive. I thought Corregidor was supposed to be broke.
I don’t understand the hate for the new Wildcats. I find myself fitting two or three into every list.
Change, a lot of people hate change. Including me, but I usually just drop it in a tip jar or charity box and move on with my life.
I just don't find their skill set or equipment valuable or durable enough. For 24+ points I would rather take an EVADER in almost any circumstance. The only profile I could imagine using is the NCO Spitfire, but even then it's the same price as the EVADER AP Spitfire Engineer with Tinbot. Maybe I just don't run into as many solo smoke using units? I don't know. Assisted fire Vostok negates cover which is better than MSV1 outside of smoke tricks, it's faster, has climbing plus, and is tougher, for all of 7pts more and -1.5 SWC. I'm also having a really hard time justifying Intruders and it's N2 statline for 40pts.
It’s the abilities they bring to a link I find highly beneficial. The BTS 6 KHD is excellent with Moran and other repeaters sprinkled around. Taken in conjunction with Jazz, there isn’t much that can mess with us in hacking. And, it’s a great close-range backup shooter with BS13 and MSV1. The HRL is astoundingly good. 23 points for HRL with MSV1 in a 5-man full of wildcards? Yes please. Oh, and it’s 1.5 SWC now and still has the assault pistol? Even better. A 5-man led by that girl and the Evader AP Spitfire can take down anything without breaking a sweat. I’m also finding the LT profile to be very useful because CJC usually runs out of SWC before points. At least, I tend to. I actually haven’t used the NCO Spitfire at all yet (although it’s also a good profile) because it’s the only one that competes directly with the Evader AP Spitfire, who is IMO the greatest toolbox unit ever gifted to the Nomad Nation.
Some good points. I think if the Wildcat was around 20pt base it would be more appealing to me. I usually run with extra SWC, so the NCO is mostly to get more orders out of a 15 Order limit at this point. We play with a lot of vertical space on our tables (lots or 2-3 story buildings) so Climbing Plus is more valuable than it may be other places.
That all makes sense. I’m definitely up for getting C+ where I can; the Evader is an auto-include for me, though I usually only take one. Gotta have the bodies to actually make the core link work (need at least one Alg, Cat, or MB), and I’ve been finding at a 15 order cap I can get the Wildcats in instead of Algs as the base, which makes every model in the list dangerous instead of just filler.
Yea. I've been using Jaguars for that purpose. 11pts for Adhesive and Panzerfaust or light shotgun + smoke, hell yes. Then using more expensive models like MB, EVADERS, Vostoks for most of the link. CB needs to hurry up and get some Evaders released. I need those models.
Agreed, all the way around. I’m gonna end up converting an Evader if they don’t hurry and then be mad when the actual model is better than my conversion. Jags are excellent filler and I almost always have 2-3 in a list. They just don’t solve the LT problem, which is where the Cats usually come in. It’s the Algs I just don’t base N4 lists around much.
Agreed, Algs have no place in CJC right now. I like to lean on the MB Lt., especially now that it's tougher, and the Intruder Lt. is gone.
MB LT is also an excellent choice. I ran that pretty much exclusively at the end of N3 in an Alg/MB link. Since they can go with Jags now, that might be an even better choice.
my dislike of them is that they became grenzers 1.5. A little better because they are cheaper. I tryed grenzers over and over in the last year, but they don't do as much work as their cost could suggest, and I am affraid wildcats will be the same in the end. Also, we got our no SWC Lt more expensive maybe later in this season we see wildcats got a nice change, but in vainilla, we had allready grenzers (wildcats just predate their role). In corregidor, we will see
Totally undeniable that Correg got a buff, and no I don't think they needed a buff. I miss Intruder Lt. and it was balanced in most missions, but missions like decap it was totally overpowered. I would have preferred those missions getting a restriction on Lt. entering token state. Wildcats are less interesting but have a better reason to be taken with the MSV1. I have mixed emotions.