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Discussion in 'News' started by Ben Kenobi, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Andre82

    Andre82 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for the dumb random and pretty basic question, but can you superjump prone?
     
  2. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I would actually like to request a clarification on whether this is actually the case now that it's clarified that the unit which generated the order is the defacto owner of it. The tie to whether the owner has to also have ownership of the Lieutenant skill gets a bit flimsy when you interpret the rules that the Lieutenant skill isn't the owner of the order.
     
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  3. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Super-Jump changes the Jump skill to a Short Movement Skill, it doesn't change the fact that Jump is disallowed while Prone (3rd bullet point of the Prone state)

    Effects
    • Prone troopers have a Silhouette (S) value of 0, that is, the equivalent height of a base.
    • While in this state, troopers have both their MOV values halved.
    • While Prone, troopers cannot Jump or Climb.
    • Prone troopers that are the target of a BS Attack declared by an enemy from a lower position than them will benefit from Partial Cover MODs against that attack.
    • This state does not affect Automatic Special Skills or Automatic Equipment, except when explicitly stated in their description.
     
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  4. Andre82

    Andre82 Well-Known Member

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    errrm I knew that, I was testing you....
     
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  5. KwarkyMats

    KwarkyMats Well-Known Member

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    I've got a question about the new Total Immunity ruling.
    Just to make this clear, does this mean you can decide to use ARM or BTS for any normal ammo, like say combi rifles?
    Because this would be a huge boost to Karakuris, which allows them to use their BTS 6 in almost any situation.
     
  6. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    Yes. And that has been the case since TI was reworked. The FAQ only clarified it.
     
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  7. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    And thats why the cost on Karakuries increased.
     
  8. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Yay, yet another way to cancel a impeteues order on doggos !

    GJ CB!
     
  9. ijw

    ijw Wargaming Trader, Freelance Editor (UK)
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    Give it a rest.

    "During an Impetuous Order a trooper can never move in a Prone state so he will automatically stand up at the beginning of the mandatory Move, or at the start of a Jump or Climb."
     
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  10. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Yep, luckily there is this thing ! :)
     
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  11. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    It was put there for a purpose you know.
     
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  12. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Just like an old shock+NWI was :P
     
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  13. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    That rule is written as if anybody can get up at the beginning of a Jump or Climb, not just Impetuous troops.
     
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  14. Melchior

    Melchior Well-Known Member

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    no they just do a normal move instead if a climb/jump if you deploy them prone so it has its uses
     
  15. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    The part of the rules that @ijw quoted contradicts that. Actually, that's a good point - is the FAQ meant to overrule that part of the rulebook?
     
  16. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    You cannot jump (super or otherwise) while remaining prone.

    impetuous troops must stand up (cancel prone) during the impetuous move.
     
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  17. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Yeah, but from the latest FAQ:

    The question is if this overrides the section on Impetuous troopers and prone; it looks like it does.
     
  18. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    You give us no credit, but no, it is there first and foremost to stop Impetuous troops from been locked in prone state and safely crawl for 3 turns behind a wall providing orders, but provides a few other restrictions too.
     
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  19. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Now you can put them on the edge of a building, prone, with a lip, and do the same thing, though, right? Since they can't stand up unless they declare Move, and declaring Jump would be the shortest path for them.
     
  20. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    They have to go towards the enemy model that is reachable with the fewest orders, so if they cannot jump, they must stand up and go for the ladder/ staircase/ slope/ whatever access point there is to go down.

    They also do not need to suicide to an impossible to survive jump.
     
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