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Experiences with the Druze

Discussion in 'Druze Bayram Security' started by theGricks, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I had the exact same problem. I went from my Doctor Pluses in multiples to side eyeing my PANO Murder-docs.
     
  2. Sgt. Nurofen

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    Nimbus LGL + Fatality L1 HMG or MSV 2 MSR = Death to any ARO. Burst 4 HMG vc Burst 1! Missile from Link. B1 to EACH enemy from Link and B1 from em to fire back. Fair enough for me. Or B2 Multy Sniper vc B1.
    Clipper in Druze link make it less aggresive and more slow. Also, vulnerable to Hackers. So, meh... Humans will handle problems, bots like Peacemaker Warbeasts and Pathfinders will support.

    P.S. Year ago, often shoot TR Bots by Spetsnaz HMG. But it's gamble. U kill it, or u get Critted.
    Now, I let Flamers, Shotguns, LGL and Rifles to do the job.
     
  3. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Yeah when it comes to links, Nimbus 'nades are fantastic and overlooked.
     
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  4. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I have used my B5 HMG to decimate ARO links, or lone ARO pieces. The HMG is for removing problems with overwhelming firepower. The Nades and Clipper are for removing problems you cant get to.
     
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  5. Skyhusky

    Skyhusky Well-Known Member

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    So I just started playing Druze, and I have to say...Wow, the Druze Multisniper with Mimetism was my most beloved model in both of the games I played, where it seemed the Druze brought a .50 Cal to a regular sniper fight, and my fireteam was hardy enough to push up the field and do work, which I always appreciate, with HMG-tastic fun for the entire family...er, so much so that Arslan didn't actually get to do anything but take potshots during ARO.

    Who are you guys using for Arslan when/if you take them? I'm using the Druze Hacker special model from the N3 book, but I might replace her with the PanO female from Outrage until Arslan's model makes an appearance.
     
  6. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I keep switching between a converted old sword sculpt and walking with cigar Joe Scarface...its tough...I know a lot of folks use Stephen Rao.
     
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  7. Psybilliah

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    @theGricks
    do you have some examples of the lists you have been using?
     
  8. Skyhusky

    Skyhusky Well-Known Member

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    I'll be introducing the Kameel remotes and the Peacemaker + Auxbot into my lists soon. I haven't played with remotes in awhile, this should be fun.
     
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  9. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    This is one I have been tinkering with:

    [​IMG] Druze Bayram Security
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] CLIPPER DRONBOT Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  10. theradrussian

    theradrussian Well-Known Member

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    @theGricks I must say I like the look of that one. I may have to take it for a spin myself, although I may try and squeeze Valerya in there.

    Did you make i for any specific missions in mind?
     
  11. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    Here is what I consider my re-enforced core list. The basic goal is to have my 5 man core be followed by a duo. This way if I lose a person in the core, i can replace them with someone from my duo. I usually put Gromoz and the LT in the DUO. Gromoz should stay close to give the clipper MML2. I like the Lt in the duo since its easier to protect him there, while not completely hiding him in back. I've had games where the LT order was extreme useful because he was already up front. The rest is flavored to preference\scenario.

    [​IMG] Re-inf Core
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29)
    [​IMG] DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] CLIPPER DRONBOT Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] PEACEMAKER Spitfire + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (1 | 27)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] PEACEMAKER Spitfire + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (1 | 27)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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  12. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    Here is a different list for the same tactic. But you may want to have the Core follow the Duo because its Scarface. Gromoz Duos with Scarface in this list, which leaves cordelia free to take a nasmat. Having that many repair options in a list forces your opponent to spend the extra orders on completely removing the remotes. With 2 levels of unconscious its takes even more orders.

    [​IMG] Core+ Scarface+remotes
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] CLIPPER DRONBOT Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER . (1.5 | 74)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. ()
    [​IMG] [​IMG] CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] PEACEMAKER Spitfire + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (1 | 27)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    [​IMG] PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  13. Skyhusky

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    Ran a tournament, had an odd number turnout, but since it was only about 4 of us, I decided as the TO to step in and play, because why not?

    Mirrored some of Rumble on 66's missions for Hunting Party, Capture and Protect, and Acquisition.

    Here's the list I took for Capture and Protect and Acquisition. It went..interesting. Arslan can be a real pain in the ass to the enemies who want to steamroll him, especially when everything's dying around him and his BS13 has to pick up the slack. The Shock Marksmanship rifle has been a real MVP every game I bring them, but it was fun, even though my Druze end up shot up, Arslan and another Druze seem to make the day.

    [​IMG] Druze Bayram Security
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    [​IMG] DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29)
    [​IMG] VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] ARSLAN MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36)
    [​IMG] DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] ANACONDA HMG + Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 64)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (- | 0)
    [​IMG] PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] KAMEEL (Total Reaction, Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    5.5 SWC | 297 Points
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  14. Vaulsc

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    I had another game with them recently. The sectorial is overall one of the weakest in the game, if not the weakest, but all playable factions are so close together anyway it hardly matters. Like always, it's better to put your focus on trying to play an error-free game and set up some strong plays rather than fretting over the various lists that you can make.

     
  15. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I definitely do not find them the weakest faction in the game. They play control VERY strongly, and do punish misplays. They bring strong punch with SMR, or HMG's in a link team with Fatality and Vet 1, they also bring a wide array of smart weapon support in the Hunzukuts (who can either surprise FO at WIP 14, or Drop repeaters to Spot light), and the tool box that is the hunzukut is strong. Bashi's can be good but starting on the side of the board and choosing that side at the beginning usually turns me off of them. A haris defensive link of Brawlers with the MSV MSR is painful for the opponent.
     
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  16. TheDiceAbide

    TheDiceAbide That's just like your opinion man.
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    Definitely far from weakest, they have some amazingly powerful tools, though I do agree with him that you should focus more on playing an error free game than churning out lists. I don't make most of my ITS lists until the week of, and I do quite well with them (I took second at the LVO). My general advice for any player is to learn to use all your units, then it doesn't really matter what you bring, you'll probably have a good idea of what kind of foundation you want, then fill it in with the support of your choosing.

    Druze are definitely an in-your-face sectorial, which is why I enjoy them so much, but when you play that way, there are lots of mistakes you can make, leaving units unsupported, forgetting to play to the scenario, etc. Fatality and Veteran are great on the basic troops, but what I love even more is the wide array of weapons each one brings to the table, in one game I ended up firing my HMG's chain colt and viral pistol more than his HMG!
     
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  17. KedzioR_vo

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    I've played my first 300pts ITS tournament with Druze last Sunday. The whole scores are here

    I finished 5th in 14 players and could've done a bit better (especially in first battle), but as an organizer I was waiting for a belated player and we only had an hour to play Unmasking.

    To be honest I had some problems with creating lists that would be as good as my typical Haqq lists - I've found that I highly miss my Saladin WIPs (I lost all my initiative rolls), my big number of different specialists, and my ideal DataTracker (Tarik!). Druzes are much more limited and have some problems with few options (for example destroying Antennas in the Grid - Bayram has only few Antimateriel options).
    Still I don't say that this army is bad - it's just different and definitely need time to master. I'm still learning, with 66,66% of wins ;) In all my 3 tournaments so far I had 2 wins and 1 lost battle in all of them ;)

    In this tournament I was testing the Druze Sniper (earlier I played mostly with Brawler) and I have to say that Mimetism is really helpful. AROing linked MSR with DAM 16 and Mimetism can be a big problem for enemy.
    I was going second in all battles and was playing with aggressive link (HMG / Sniper - Brawler or Druze / SML). Plus Scarface in one list. It stopped Ariadna in first battle, even Specnaz guys and Caterans couldn't push through my defence. With some luck most of my guys survived. Even if they didn't, as in second battle against JSA, they bleed the enemy so much, that I was going straight for objectives in my turn.

    In the last battle of this tournament I lost against Aleph Steel Phalanx - and it was the only battle that my link and Scarface was dismantled pretty easy. Yet they were put against a good player with very tough units. For example Scarface died after one Face To Face against Pheonixe's HRL - Fire ammo can be a nightmare - I failed few ARM rolls one after the other until Joe was unconscius.
    The enemy had Achilles in hoplite armour, he took advantage of some total cover, got into Spitfires range and in few orders killed many my guys. I only scored 1OP - thanks to one of the best rolls I ever had - the forementioned Achilles went close to the rest of my link (only 3 guys then) and fired against Druze KHD in cover. Druze got hit and it was the first time I passed ARM roll and Guts Roll. Achilles wanted to go closer to finish off Scarface. So he blusterously went without a cover close to Druze - and I decided to use the Viral Pistols because of their ammo. I was hitting on 12, Achilles split his burst (2 rolls against Unconsciouss Scarface and 2 against Druze). Both of us were hitting on 12 in the Face to Face and to my surprise Druze KHD got 2x 12! :D Achilles had to roll another 2 BTS rolls and failed one and went down in one ARO :D
    He killed most of my important units earlier, but still I was quite happy - especially that my classified was to Coup de Grace someone - so in my active turn I let my Druze KHD be the man of the match and he got me the one and only Objective Point in that battle :P

    So yes, Viral pistols can be helpful - it was the first time I saw this, but in what a case! :D


    PozdRawiam / Greetings


    P.S. The miniature of Druze KHD (I was using the new hacker from the box) will get a special souvenir on his base to remind him (and me) of his great deed ;)
     
  18. jfunkd

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    His outstretched hand should be holding a severed Achilles head by the hair.
     
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  19. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I do think it's kind of awesome that if you double Crit Achilles with a Viral Pistol... he can still survive if he passes his BTS saves.

    Dude is insane.

    Good work in the tournament though! 5th out of 14 is very respectable at least.
     
  20. Psybilliah

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    Those viral pistols are so good!
     
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