1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Hemos actualizado nuestra Política de Privacidad acorde con la nueva RGPD. +Info // We've updated our Privacy Policy to comply with the GDPR. +Info
    Dismiss Notice

Dear CB ...

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by zapp, Mar 22, 2019.

  1. Maksimas

    Maksimas Maxi

    Joined:
    May 23, 2018
    Messages:
    1,692
    Likes Received:
    1,338
    The only unexpected part about that was the Mine Dispenser, TBH.

    Tarik's essentially a Wildcard, by the by.
     
  2. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2018
    Messages:
    523
    Likes Received:
    438
    What do you mean essentially? It says wildcard right in his stat block.
     
  3. Janzerker

    Janzerker Invincible Angry

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2018
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    1,019
    Actually we got something new..

    A wonderful KHD + CoC Pheasant profile for 34 points

    That instead looks like developers making fun of us , truth be told…

    Oh and all mighty invincible can't be cut by monofilament/affected by viral, and other shenanigans Sun Tze! (unless later rules show otherwise )
     
  4. Maksimas

    Maksimas Maxi

    Joined:
    May 23, 2018
    Messages:
    1,692
    Likes Received:
    1,338
    I mean... it's a thing? It's another KHD, I suppose, even if it's now our second most expensive KHD.
     
  5. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    1,954
    Likes Received:
    1,671
    On its shittier profile. In fact, shit enough to ensure it stays in the dumpster with the rest of more expensive MBTs.

    I have no idea how to even begin leveraging these trendy missile bot duos.
     
    Shoitaan likes this.
  6. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    2,675
    Likes Received:
    2,915
    Yeah, no. Mine Dispensers are incredibly strong at pressuring and dismantling fireteams. The Raicho does solid work at 94pts the Maggie is fine at 99

    It's also fucking annoying for TO/Camo models to deal with. You see them running towards you, so you ARO dump a mine behind a building they need to get past in their next order.

    There's alot of neat stuff you can do with it.
     
    Shoitaan, Barrogh and ambisinister like this.
  7. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2018
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    640
    Not going to lie, it feels like this update came with a decent amount of power creep. Even looking at Ramuh, it feels that most of the profiles they got were more fully realized versions of what IA was supposed to be (why... look at all that NWI) with more optimized unit costs and less hacking vulnerability.
     
    Death and Barrogh like this.
  8. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2018
    Messages:
    679
    Likes Received:
    881
    I does seem obvious on first glance, but as far as overall power levels go, only time will tell.
     
    Alphz likes this.
  9. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    2,675
    Likes Received:
    2,915
    Ramah's links are clunky as fuck, too many models with alternative movement methods that don't play nice in mixed fireteams.
     
    Shoitaan and Barrogh like this.
  10. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    1,954
    Likes Received:
    1,671
    Well, if you pretend all of them are standard 4-4, then suddenly they are just average in that regard, definitely not something more clunky than random link #52, for what it's worth.
     
    Death likes this.
  11. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2018
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    640
    And then when you do want to accomplish something that does require more specific movement abilities, just break them off once you need to, and reform the link once that job is finished.
     
  12. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    2,675
    Likes Received:
    2,915
    More along the lines of you want to use those movement abilities to get somewhere to fight, but that means you leave the link behind and lose all the link bonuses you paid for.

    You can do it but it's clunky as fuck and doesn't feel good to pay for and build a link... then try to use your abilities and lose your link.
     
  13. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    1,954
    Likes Received:
    1,671
    Well, you sure give something up when you use such a link as if it's plain 4-4 (aside from occasional Tarik jump or something), but I'm not sure you are truly robbed on a pts front if what you get is a BS16 B5 Fat2 idiocy without paying for more than 4-5 (for spare body, for example in case you will break pointman away) line troopers to make that happen.

    It gets more questionable when it comes to linking Namurr there, but I don't think populating a cheapish core is a real job for her in the first place.
     
  14. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    7,701
    Likes Received:
    9,591
    Is this the time when I resurrect my old idea to make Guijia have Total Immunity? Possibly the ARM needs to be reduced to 6 to keep it in line instead of the 7 I previously suggested.

    It would make for a very interesting dynamic between the Guijia (Blue Wolf) and the Jotums, where the Guijia is the cheaper and weaker TAG, but in a direct firefight between the two the Guijia is on equal footing since AP wouldn't work on it while the much more expensive Jotum has slightly better odds of hitting.
     
    Tibooper and SpectralOwl like this.
  15. Ariwch

    Ariwch The denizen of the StateEmpire salt mine

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2018
    Messages:
    295
    Likes Received:
    277
    Why the useless M-bot duo? This shitty "upgrade" is for Azrails. Maggy duos with Rafiq that at least
    • has repeater
    • has sensor
    • is a specialist

    or with fair Leila ;-)
     
  16. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    1,954
    Likes Received:
    1,671
    Because I'm dumb and mixed things up.

    Well, sensorbots are definitely not bad, especially for their cost.

    Fairly sure she always has better places to be.
     
  17. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    7,701
    Likes Received:
    9,591
    This thought has been stuck in my head a bit too long now not to share it; What if Tai Sheng wasn't Zuyong? What if Tai Sheng was Shang-Ji? She's been performing alright for people.

    Take her Tinbot profile. Remove NCO and FO. Downgrade the Breaker Combi to a Combi. Change the Chain-Colt to Flamethrower.
    What if this was the new statline for the basic non-TA Shang-Ji Tinbot? Points cost: unchanged for all Shang-Ji profiles.

    Side benefit includes Tai Sheng now being Wildcard, allowing for her Breaker Combi profile supplying Hulangs with extra movement and Tinbot
     
    #57 Mahtamori, Apr 4, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2019
  18. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    2,675
    Likes Received:
    2,915
    Now you have a really shitty expensive Wildcard. Yay? I guess.

    Rather stick with the NCO for the Zuyongs.
     
  19. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    7,701
    Likes Received:
    9,591
    I think you got the wrong end of the stick. I'm talking about changing the Shang-Ji profile to have Tai Sheng's statline, not the other way around - i.e. possible to Wildcard in a BS 14 HRL to any link, or stick a WIP 14, BTS 6 AHD where the trade off is; 1 lower ARM, 2 lower PH and Tai Sheng would now occupy Shang-Ji's wildcard slot.
    They'd still be costly, but I think that statline would provide more value and by virtue of NCO, FO, and more exotic weapons it would not de-legitimise Tai Sheng.
     
    Henshini likes this.
  20. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    2,675
    Likes Received:
    2,915
    Oh alright, sure. The fact that the Shang Ji become BS14 at least now sets them apart from the Zuyong and helps improve their wildcard status.
     
    Henshini likes this.