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Dart : how and why ?

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Arkhos94, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. Abrilete

    Abrilete Well-Known Member

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    Cheap PanO photoshop.
     
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  2. paraelix

    paraelix Well-Known Member

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    Or, y'know, a Clipsos deploying as a Camo token...
     
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  3. ev0k

    ev0k Well-Known Member

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    Clipsos ? This is not the minelayer you're looking for.
     
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  4. Wolf

    Wolf https://watchwolf.net

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    We'll have to wait for an official announcement, but I believe she'll look a lot like this
    Dart crop.jpeg
     
    #44 Wolf, Dec 20, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2018
  5. MerloyJenkils

    MerloyJenkils Well-Known Member

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    I actually like this look more, I'm just adding a bow in the back and that's it
     
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  6. jherazob

    jherazob Well-Known Member

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    That's what i was feeling was missing. I clearly need lots more coffee.
     
  7. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    I like the 'Deal with it!' pose of the new sculpt, but I prefer the previous one because I dislike the goggles covering her face.
     
  8. Minos

    Minos Νίκη ἢ Θάνατος
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    I do prefer the LE one and even the Aristeia version.
    This new one looks like Andromeda with the Dactyl pose. And even if I never shoot with the bow, it's a feature of the character...
     
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  9. Abrilete

    Abrilete Well-Known Member

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    The Spec-Ops also has the same pose.
     
  10. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    Those girlies look gorgeous all the same! Love them! (Use them as SMG Thorakitai proxies day in day out...)
     
  11. tdc

    tdc ALEPH Fragment
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    I prefer the new pose.. still I'll be using the gencon dart for aristeia...
     
  12. Shoitaan

    Shoitaan Well-Known Member

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    I played Dart for the first time yesterday during decapitation and almost had a hollywood moment. I was still going to lose but whether it was 9-2 or 7-4 all depended on Dart's Rambo manoeuvre in the last turn. She had spec-fired e/m grenades last turn ontop of a rooftop where there were 3 prone myrmidons behind cover, safe and untouchable (one was Alke the LT). Of course I forgot there's no LoL in Decapitation and isolate would have actually let him move his LT away to someone else. Thankfully he forgot the second bit but he remembered the no LoL bit. At least the link was broken.

    Final turn, regain camo. Scale the building with mov-mov ending on top after beign discovered. Activate to spend her last fateful order before she eats chainrifles, pistols and fuerbachs. She rolls 3 dice against Alke needing 16s.
    17, 18, 19.
    Alke crits with her single pistol shot in return. Survived the chain rifle but not the fuerbach. We didn't bother rolling the other AROs...

    So close to being a good memory. Instead, its become a phantom that won't go away.

    Nonetheless, my first 2 experiences with Dart yesterday was a relatively good one. She's a great toolbox unit like my beloved PanO locust only much more survivable. I even got to use the bow in ARO against an encroaching myrmidon which I very much enjoyed. Like I said in the other thread though, I wish she had a FO profile (preferably with e/m nades) so she'd be more useful in L&S. Or even just generically 'specialist operative'.
     
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  13. Kir

    Kir Well-Known Member

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    CB tested her as specialist of some kind and found her super op, so they scrapped it.
     
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  14. Janzerker

    Janzerker Invincible Angry

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    She's already OP and in a severe need for a nerf. That girl is basically a Dao Fei Lite with enhanced mobility but unhackable. With a specialist profile she would be the most autoinclude abomination this game has ever seen.

    Expect no improvements but a nerf.
     
  15. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    I don't think she is OP and I don't play any faction who can play her. Yes, she is strong, but with her Layout is she verry limited.
    Can't say, if she would be OP with SO, but I'm missing it on her profile. Now she is an expensive unit who competes with specialist.
     
  16. Smiler

    Smiler Well-Known Member

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    A specialist profile would make her as close to an auto include as possible in Infinity.

    I think she's great but the fact she competes with other infiltrators who can complete objectives is a great balancer as to whether I can fit her in the list.
     
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  17. Zewrath

    Zewrath Nordic Master

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    You mean a Ryuken Unit 9?
     
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  18. Smiler

    Smiler Well-Known Member

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    I was expecting someone to come back with the Ghazi Mutt but the Unit 9 will do. Or the proxy mk5 FO.
     
  19. Shoitaan

    Shoitaan Well-Known Member

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    I think expecting a nerf from the current situation is a bit far for an AVA 1 model given the model needs to be taken in context of the balance of the whole sectorial/army. If profiles were judged in a vacuum, the proxies should have been blacklisted long time ago XD

    I'll admit that if her current profiles received FO/Spec then she'd def be included in +90% of my lists. However, with an adequate cost adjustment (beyond the formula) and/or more importantly, a reduction in her kill prowess I think she could be quite balanced.

    An objective grabber profile can keep her trademark bow and just lose her SMGs in exchange for something like a combi or simply a LS - or something worse. Suddenly she's a much less tantalising treat. I'd want her to keep either the grenades or mines though, to keep her identity as a toolbox - but losing the SMG makes her a FAR less lethal toolbox.
     
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  20. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    Keep in mind that part of the reason they show up in every list is because they do a job that is incredibly necessary to make JSA work. They would be much stronger in an army with an already strong midfield presence like TAK.