If they delay their ARO you can Idle or Move again so they lose it. Then with a second order you can Discover+BS Attack, which will still give you Surprise Shot.
Thx, i forgot to mention that. With markers, orders/ARO declaration can really become a tricky mindgame :) And by the way, it can be really useful when dealing with suppressive fire troops, since they want to declare shoot, they can delay, but they usually won't break suppressive fire to try to discover the camo. Walk past their line of sight without fear :)
True xD She is fun and powerful tool. To drop enemy camo states I prefer to use sensor drone and attack with Dart revealed opponents. Especialy no rooftop is problem for her xD
Never ever discover within 10' away. Never ever ever. Always keep solid distance, say 12-15'. Always.
I guess this is because said marker may be a mine. And OSS in general don't really like shock at all. If you missread your distance and you are at range, you now have to deal with an exploding mine. You intended to do move/discover, but since the ARO triggers just after your first Move action, you can still do Dodge, but it's still a problem for you. Especially if you were using a deva, since they are expensive, NWI, and low PHY, means you may very well lose it.
You try to discover from 10' and do your best to judge the distance correctly. The guy lays a mine BtB to himself, that is roughly one more inch. Theoretically you are 9' away from the mine. Then you measure the distance of your trooper to the mine (when declaring an order or ARO) and if you originally were 10' away from the trooper, you are fine, but if you misjudged the distance (not that much, just one inch) you will soak up a mine exploding. If you are very good at estimating 10' correctly, you are fine. But if you are estimating half as badly as I do, you will have to tank a mine. Happened to me more than once. And yes, the same applies to CR, too. I hope this helps.
Tanking mines is one of Dart's specialties. She will survive it unless she is already NWI. I have used her a few times to clear out mines that were trapping in my Daikini for example.
I prefer shooting mines to pieces to loosing one wound of a trooper as good as Dart, but I understand your point. Personal preferences differ. Is all.
Absolutely, but if things don't work out for shooting (as the conversation above was going) she isn't stuck.
Of course, if your opponent doesn't have another camo marker within 8" of that camo marker, it's probably not a mine (unless they can take TO Camo Minelayers I guess).
I think this can happening only against vainilla Pano (and not so far against Varuna) because, maybe am I wrong, but the Crocmen is the unique TO minelayer in game (now). Back to de main theme, I have played Dart sometimes in Acontecimento, but still I dont manage to do some good work whit her. In the end always she takes a nap. All the game in marker state or dead after waste a lot of orders to do nothing. I suppouse I need to play her more.
Yeah and if it's a camo marker in PanO outside of the DZ+4" once VIRD comes out, it's definitely a mine.
hahaha. A savage TO Minelayer Clipsos appears!! But... Are you sure he was always there, in the Army? XD
I've asked and she told me that there are no minelayer clipsos profiles. So you can trust me, a camo marker against Tohaa will ALWAYS be an Igao or a Libertos, never a Mine.
