Daedalus Fall

Precisely my point.

If the mate is 100% of the time "active" until the roll is forced (so it acts against hacking without being spent, I think), then the roll is forced, but you suffer no effects from it => triggers the removal condition
If the mate is "passive until tirggered", then the Total Inmunity is not active until the mate is, so the Flash Pulse triggers the mate, and no roll is made, but the mate is discarded at the end.

 

Reread symbiomates. You have total immunity as a skill until the mate goes away.

A SymbioMate provides its user in the Active Symbiont Armor state an ARM and BTS value of 9—replacing the ARM and BTS values of the user’s Troop Profile—and it also provides the Total Immunity Special Skill

 

It also says it is a single use piece of equipment, not a piece of equipment in constant use until the removal conditions are triggered...

 

That bullet point I posted says exactly that.

 

Ok
in Ramalah
Rafik Fto can duo with Maghariba
but can Rafik Fto Duo with Wildcard replacing magrariba with lets say Leila Sharif ??/
and in reverse maggy + wildcard instade rem ??

 

Symbiomates specifically state they do not affect Hackng or Comms Attacks.

 

Total immunity is a consequence of bearing a mate, not spending it :
A SymbioMate provides its user in the Active Symbiont Armor state an
ARM and BTS value of 9—replacing the ARM and BTS values of the
user’s Troop Profile—and it also provides the Total Immunity Special Skill

 

Rafiq has Fireteam: Duo skill. His Fireteam table says Maghariba + Rafiq. A Wildcard can substitute the Maghariba.
It's the same with the Maghariba, it has Fireteam: Duo skill.

 

Yes, but keep in mind that Leila is the only option since Tarik's wildcard is specific to Harris and Core fireteams.

 

Ah, right. SymbioMate is suffering from repeat redundancy. It applies ARM/BTS/TI twice, both passively and also has another trigger when suffering an attack.

 

Nevermind

 

Unfortunately SymioMates have TWO bullet points telling you to apply the protection. They are back to back and it makes parsing the rule difficult.


* A SymbioMate provides its user in the Active Symbiont Armor state an ARM and BTS value of 9 replacing the ARM and BTS values of the user's Troop Profile and it also provides the Total Immunity Special Skill.
* When a trooper in the Active Symbiont Armor state with a SymbioMate suffers a successful Attackor is affected by any weapon or rulethat forces any ARM or BTS Rolls she will perform an ARM/BTS Roll with an Attribute value of 9, applying the Total Immunity Special Skill. Any other successful Attacksor weapon or rulerequiring any ARM or BTS Rolls by the user during the same Order will also apply the ARM/BTS 9 Attribute value, and the Total Immunity Special Skill.

 

There's not really a trigger effect for the arm/bts bonus and TI skill. It's more a trigger effect for the spending of the mate. If you don't have to roll for a ARM/BTS roll, your arm value is irrelevant ,as you don't need to check it. Since you have to chech arm or bts then you do it with value 9 and TI, thus consuming the mate.

IMHO

 

Yeah, failed to notice that you are permanentlly ARM/BTS9 Total Immunity as long as the Mate is Active.
So Flashpulse hits on their own don't trigger the Mate

 

So a sudden "nerf" to Tohaa mates just became kinda of buff ?;P

 

Not according to the testers I know, who I assume will check in case it changed since the testing :S

 

Tell the tester ijw doesn't agree.

 

However, I do note that a SymbioMate-equipped trooper can fall up to its first MOV value with very little risk; DAM 10 vs ARM 9 and the fall damage is not an attack so it won't end the SymbioMate state unless you roll a 1 enough times to get your Symbiont inactive (since the state requires an active Symbiont)

See @spears post later in the thread.

 

QA in action xD

 

Wow, I'm really impressed by your stoic clam.

We need even more kudos!