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Daedalus Fall

Discussion in 'News' started by Ben Kenobi, Mar 4, 2019.

  1. Sedral

    Sedral Invincible Officier

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    Yeah, by the look of it either the tohaa or paradiso system will be lost to the combined army in the book.

    Possibly both.
     
  2. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    Well, the Tohaa territories are made up of many systems.

    And we don't actually know how major the system which contains the wormhole which leads to the Daedalus gate is.

    So losing it could be minor for them (ignoring the link to the Human Sphere) or a total disaster.
     
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  3. gregmurdock

    gregmurdock Extremely Beloved Member

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    glad we have two threads for the same topic where one guy is posting the same things in both
     
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  4. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    If only there was some way someone could ask a moderator to merge threads...
     
  5. toadchild

    toadchild EI Aspect

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    Nobody is asking the real, hard-hitting questions.

    Shouldn't it be Daedalus's Fall?
     
  6. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    No.

    It shouldn't.

    :-P
     
  7. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    No.
     
  8. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Not if you can write English
     
  9. gregmurdock

    gregmurdock Extremely Beloved Member

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    Yeah, lemme just rely on the moderation here
     
  10. Musterkrux

    Musterkrux Well-Known Member

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    As someone with a name ending with an 's', I have thoughts about this...

    So, if you roll your linguistics history back to the time spanning the 5th-11th centuries, we note that the possessive suffix (or rather, singular genitive) was "-es". So, Bob's was actually Bobes and Jess' was actually Jesses (which makes sense, as that's how we pronounce the possessive).

    So, the possessive apostrophe is, in some fashion, actually an apostrophe of omission/contraction, in that we're omitting the 'e' from -es. ie. What was once Jesses becomes Jess's.

    So, from that perspective I have no problem with Daedalus's Fall.

    However, we have Style Guides for a reason, so maybe Daedalus' Fall is more correct?

    As a final note, I sit with the esteemed Mark Twain and damned well insist that the rules of a language are determined by those who speak it, so as long as you have successfully communicated that 'it was the fall of Daedalus' I don't care where your apostrophe is.
     
  11. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Brisk antipodean

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    Hmm. Would I agree with this? Yes, I'd.
     
  12. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    I was certainly taught that the possessive form of a word ending in [ s ] is [ s' ].

    That is also how I wrote for the US Navy. Fowler's Modern English Usage supports this.
     
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  13. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    While I can't quote a fancy book, I was taught English, in England, and listened to a great deal of BBC Radio 4 as a child/teenager which tends to build one's language skills on a rather solid foundation.

    On the downside I keep using words that other people don't know, which is embarrassing.
     
  14. WiT?

    WiT? Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what I feel about the giant dude. If it's a S5 melee HI....

    Will also lol if Tohaa become "Tohaa survivors cut off in the Human Sphere" post-daedalus, but keep the typical human wave strategy they are so well known for
     
  15. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    How’s that a downside?
     
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  16. SirGrumpyPants

    SirGrumpyPants A little grumpy

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    Can you bamboozle us with some fancy words, plz. I'm at work and its exceedingly dull.
     
  17. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    I don't really think of them as fancy, just sometimes I say something and get odd looks.

    Nearly came a-cropper in a job interview, I'd written in my CV that I'd spent quite a bit of time providing basic at support for bespoke software, I was then asked if Bespoke was an English company and if it was specifically banking software they did.

    Also lawyers don't apparently know the word "ameliorate", and it feels very strange to be explaining a word to people that charge hundreds of dollars an hour for their time when I'm just their tech support.
     
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  18. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    Yeah... my kids run into this at school... I can understand their classmates, but their teachers?
     
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  19. Musterkrux

    Musterkrux Well-Known Member

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    WHO MADE FOWLER BOSS OF ENGLISH!?

    That said, quite a witty man and I generally agree with his key arguments.

    That said, for such a dynamic and complex system, I'm not sure we can let a book published nearly a hundred years ago (1926) dictate how we communicate today. :)

    To return to the original topic (somewhat): What idiot names something critically important to one's own species after mythical figures who were punished for their hamartia? Naming a place 'Daedalus' is almost as bad as naming a ship Titanic 2. :)
     
  20. SirGrumpyPants

    SirGrumpyPants A little grumpy

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    On the subject, I feel like the word "Daedalus'" is an awful mouthful of a word, but its a cool word, so its ok.

    Also, Daedalus will hack your brains

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