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Corrigedor: Possible Improvements

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by Del S, Apr 19, 2018.

  1. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    No idea. I probably wouldn't use Geckos without them. I bet at least the pilots would stay, that could be enough to make them worth it.
     
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  2. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    My local Warcor says 'Yes'. But he is a bit biased on this one. I would be surprised if they didn't keep them: it's been highly successful and well received.
     
  3. Click2kill

    Click2kill Well-Known Member

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    I am very certain that pilots and pilot rules are not affected by the ITS seasons, unless the next season rules plan to overwrite them. The Ironclad rule(FAT1), however, is part of ITS 9 rules so I don't know.
     
  4. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Tagline is already done, it was last season. The pilot rules have stayed as part of Army/the wiki.

    Fatality lvl 1 was introduced as part of the current season (Treason), I imagine it will continue after this season unless it proves unbalancing.
     
  5. sgthulka

    sgthulka Well-Known Member

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    Wildcats need AVA 6 and that stupid SWC tax dropped. They used to be the cat's meow but power creep has gotten so out of control recently that the double-Intruder HMG plus double-HRL disposible wildcat link that CB feared so much is no longer a valid concern with all the crazy crap running around the table these days.

    EDIT: And if they don't want to drop the SWC tax, a special character lieutenant with -1 SWC would be acceptable.
     
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  6. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I could use up to 7 Wildcats but I'd be happy with 6.
     
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  7. Kwisatz Haderach

    Kwisatz Haderach Zelenograd Shasvastii
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    Corregidor real problem is non useful additional AVA of some troops.
    Why you need AVA5 Hellcats?
    AVA 4 Tomcats?
    AVA 5 Intruders?
    Thats a problem, because you won't use more then 2 of each.
    Recent Starco put more nails into Corregidor coffin anyway.
     
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  8. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    The idea was that using a command token to deploy up to 4 AD troops would let you use the surplus 3 orders, since with that it is possible to get a use from them. Right now, its a "heck no" option because until you deploy those cats, you don't have their orders and the group has a glaring hole... and deploying them on a secondary group means, at least, that they are totally vulnerable. using the coordinated order so that one takes the hit for the other 2-3... assuming no dispersion nor several enemy ARO.

    And the building's size, too. CB's scenography not having space for the circular template (thus preventing AD troops to land there), plus all the detais on most bought buldings means that, well, even hellcats enter by the side of the table.

    Dunno. I don't think Ironclad is the defining rule that makes TAGs to be used this season, however, but the extension of "no taking 2 orders from you if you go first and have a single combat group" to all games (Limited Insertion just removes the Strategic use of Command Tokens), so only Biotechvore places 10 order lists of non-sectorials at a disadvantage.
     
  9. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I'm not trying to argue I just still don't see the point. Why not just take 2 non AD guys if what you want is the orders. What is the effective difference between 3 Hellcats dropped and all the orders pumped in to one compared to just 1 Hellcat with 2 Jaguars giving it orders? Isn't it the same result?
     
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  10. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Improving Corregidor would drive purchases away from StarCo...
     
  11. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    Wrong forum.
     
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  12. Click2kill

    Click2kill Well-Known Member

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    Improving corregidor would probably improve purchases for StarCo. I honestly don't know how it can be improved. I think if wildcats went to AVA 6+, they would nerf the 13 BS provided.

    My wish for corregidor would be to add something to mobile brigada that bring them up to the utility of Riot Grrls without eclipsing Riot Grrls.
     
  13. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Can we get away from Riot Grrls being the standard to be aimed for. They're a stupidly strong link. I'd argue they're amongst the best links in the game.
     
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  14. Click2kill

    Click2kill Well-Known Member

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    And thats why corregidor is lacking. Brigada cost more and offer less.
     
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    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Mixed links with other troops would certainly improve Corregidor without improving StarCo...
     
  16. Click2kill

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    A Gecko + 2 mobile brigada haris option would be interesting.
     
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  17. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Buff Prowlers to be on par with Bandits please. :P

    My point regarding Grrls is that they're actually too strong and could do with a nerf. But I'm weird in that I think the way to deal with power creep is to resist it, not embrace it.

    OTOH I do agree Brigada could do with some love. I just don't think the end point should be 'as good as Grrls' (if you're not running them, you should ask yourself why not). I'd settle for 'competitive in the right mission / set of missions in a tournie'.
     
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  18. Cothel

    Cothel Well-Known Member

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    Don't tell me how to play my secondary army. If I want to run full AVA of Hellcats, Tomcats, or Intruders I will do it and be entertained the entire time.
     
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    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Prowlers still seem wank to me. The costing is so weird.

    Like, what's the cost of the Boarding Shotgun one? 31pts? A Spektr BSg is cheaper, has superior AP Mines instead of D-Charges and Grenades, and is cheaper! Alright the Prowler has ARM 2 and Bioimmunity, but the Spektr has BTS 3 and, oh yeah, vastly stronger TO Camo compared to Camo. Oh yeah, and isn't 4-2 either!

    If there's one Nomad troop that needs redoing, it's the Prowler. The only one that's even close to good is the Spitfire, and even that's really SWC expensive.
     
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  20. Kwisatz Haderach

    Kwisatz Haderach Zelenograd Shasvastii
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    Sadly, 5 intruders, 5 hellcats and 4 tomcats cost much more then 300pts :((((((((((((((