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[Corregidor]Need help with my list

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by Fabbo, Mar 27, 2018.

  1. Fabbo

    Fabbo Questionator

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    Hi I am a new Infinity player. I have no models or anything. I decided to play Corregidor because I like the lore and the models.

    I (with the combined expirience of one game) generated a list. The idea was to have 2 Geckos and Deadpool aka Señor Massacre in my team. The rest would just follow automatically. That is what I thought. I can't explain it but I feel that my list is kind of incomplete but I don't know what it is.
    Does my list have any down sides? Did I overlook an important unit?


    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Corregidor
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] GECKO 2 Combi Rifles, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / . (0 | 53)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (0.5 | 54)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE (Fireteam: Haris) Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges + 1 Zondcat / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] ZONDCAT Electric Pulse. (4)

    4 SWC | 299 Points

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    The Geckos are a fire team: duo. The Alguaciles are a fireteam:core and Señor Massacre fire team: haris with the jaguar. I have a hacker, a paramedic and an engineer.

    It feels like I want another unit to have the HMG and I kind of want more smoke but couldn't afford it. Help please. Are there better alternatives or is it a bad idea to have both geckos and Señor Massacre in the same list.

    Although I have different specialists, it feels like I should have chosen better ones (except for the engineer)
     
  2. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I think your links are a little bit of a mess. I honestly don't think the Alg link actually gives you anything: you don't have the repeaters to make use of the Hacker. And honestly, if someone tries to possess one of your TAGs: good on them, they probably just wasted a lot of orders. Undo it as soon as you can spend a command token.

    Geckos + Intruders + Massacre Haris in the same list is a fun idea.

    I'd tend to run that like this:

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Corregidor
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────
    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] GECKO 2 Combi Rifles, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / . (0 | 53)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (0.5 | 54)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)
    [​IMG] WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges + 1 Zondcat / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] ZONDCAT Electric Pulse. (4)
    3.5 SWC | 299 Points
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    You're a little reliant on Gecko pilots as specialists (I find they do perfectly fine at that job). You can swap the Wildcat for a Daktari with 2 x Zondbots (but that makes your LT obvious).

    The other option is this:
    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Corregidor
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────
    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] GECKO 2 Combi Rifles, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / . (0 | 53)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (0.5 | 54)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Adhesive Launcher, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Adhesive Launcher, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] CARLOTA KOWALSKY Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges + Moriarty / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] MORIARTY Electric Pulse. (4)
    3 SWC | 300 Points
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    Which is very amusing.
     
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  3. Fabbo

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    I like the second list. As you already recognized, I was trying to use the Alguaciles as specialist fillers.
    It feels a bit strange to rely on the Geckos for specialist skills.
    Wouldn't it be wiser to have a single Aguaciles forward observer instead of a fifth team member in the core fireteam?
    Also my Lieutenant would be obvious, right?

    The intruders are not a must have. If I have a really solid list when I remove them, then so be it. I just thought they are nice to have
     
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  4. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I generally find that if you have 2 obvious LT options it dissuades people from actively hunting them too much. In the other list Intruder Lts tend to be survivable enough to be obvious. The marker state goes a long way to making it difficult to hunt them.

    It is light on with specialists. I'd run it in a mission where specialists didn't matter: not every list needs to be good at all missions. The biggest issue is range: if a lucky crit takes down your Intruder MSR then you've got very little that can fight at range.

    BUT I probably wouldn't start Corregidor with those lists. They're a little off piste. Absolutely playable and very fun, but yeah not what I'd call 'beginner friendly'. That being said I'm not the person to talk to about starting Corregidor fresh (I came to it from playing a lot of Bakunin): @loricus , help please :)
     
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  5. Fabbo

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    Hmm. maybe trying to have 2 Geckos and Señor Massacre in the same list is not a good idea.

    We could start from another point of view. How is Corregidor usually played? Where do these space workers shine?

    To eliminate my lack of knowledge.. Which weapons are good at mid/long range
     
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  6. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I think that having a Massacre link and 2 Geckos in the same list is an extremely fun idea.

    Long range guns are usually HMGs and MSRs. They're not strictly necessary in a list, but if you don't have them you need to find some other way of suppressing your opponent's long-ragne AROs so you can advance into your optimal weapon range: Massacre+Jags have smoke to help with this.

    I absolutely think it's a playable concept (I may steal it). It just strikes me as having a few holes.

    If I was playing 'starting Corregidor', I'd probably run an Alg Core (5 Algs) with a Bandit, Intruder, Moran, Daktari and some AD. I'd probably run either an Intruder or MB Lt. Mainly because that does a lot of 'core Corregidor' gameplay and is a solid place to build from. BUT ultimately with Infinity a lot of it is about finding your own style and what works for you.

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Corregidor
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────
    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39)
    [​IMG] MORAN (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges + 1 Zondcat / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] ZONDCAT Electric Pulse. (4)
    5.5 SWC | 300 Points
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    It's also easier to build as an Escalation list: which is often how I think of 'starting' factions. Mainly because my meta runs a Slow Grow League as a way to encourage people to try new / different factions.

    Something like this lets you play with Massacre and his link:
    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Corregidor
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE (Fireteam: Haris) Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6
    [​IMG] MORAN (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    [​IMG] MORAN (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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  7. Fabbo

    Fabbo Questionator

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    What is an escalation list? A list with arround 150 points that is easily expanded to 300?

    I usually like the hardcore all in start where I kind of have a detailed plan what to do. In this case I could start a more beginner friendly list and once I got the expirience, switch to the "Massacre Gecko"-style © (patents for the name already made)
     
  8. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Escalation League is a type of ITS play-style, you start at 125pts and expand to 300/400 in ~50pt increments.

    Honestly, run what you think is cool. Pretty much everything in Infinity is playable (it just can be a little bit more of a challenge).

    I'm just saying how I'd probably start Corregidor if I was doing it from scratch. Defensive Fireteams are also 'easy-mode' for link management compared with an active Fireteam; so, personally I'd start there.

    But it's not an 'either/or' problem: there's no reason you can't run an Alg Core + Jag Haris AND a Gecko Duo + Jag Core/Haris. There's significant model overlap, and it will give you the opportunity to explore and find your own playstyle.
     
  9. Fabbo

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    Okay, what about wildcats? They are in the starter box. They are (pointwise) way more expensive than Alguaciles. I assume I should avoid them when I want to Massacre Gecko?

    btw: Thank you for taking so much time to explain

    EDIT: Jesus. I just checked what I would have to buy to execute my plan. I could dump either the Geckos or Massacre for the beginning. And even then I am not sure which packs to buy. Any ideas? maybe a solid start for around 100€ with options for my Gecko Massacre list?
     
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  10. loricus

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    Geckos and a Massacre link sound fine together, but as they are both groups that want to step on toes the rest of your list will have a focus on preventing yourself from being pinned.

    It will probably be based around which link wants to charge in first. Geckos can take objectives and become a distraction in suppression fire, then the Jaguars can hit them when they're overextended. Or the Jaguars can use their smoke to get to their strongest units so the Geckos don't have anything putting them in danger. Depends on your opponent.

    I've done a similar thing with McMurrough but haven't gotten around to using linked Jags much. I do think they're our most competitive link.

    I would use Alguacilles. You want to fill these links but you do not want all troops to be linked, so you need to make it to 2 useable Command Groups. An advantage to both Geckos and Jaguars is their low SWC.

    Here's a start based on how easy it is to purchase. You'll need:

    Alguacilles Support Weapon Pack.
    Vortex SpecOp (played as an Alguacil)
    Geckos box
    Jaguars box
    Massacre
    Nomads Support Pack
    Intruder MULTI sniper.

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Corregidor
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] GECKO 2 Combi Rifles, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / . (0 | 53)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (0.5 | 54)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE (Fireteam: Haris) Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    Doesn't give much room for changing things up though. Points are pretty tight.

    edit: fixed list
     
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  11. Fabbo

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    okay, i just ordered my basic stuff together and i will go the alguacil route. To be a bit more flexible, I have the opportunity to get a lunokhod + bandit with boarding shotgun or a mobile brigada pack. is this personal style either is one of these choices better?
     
  12. loricus

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    I would leave out the Brigada for now if you're playing Geckos. More importantly they come in the 300 point pack so you can get a good deal on them that way. Lunakhod gives you a lot more list building flexibility.
     
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    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    The 300pt box makes a great 'expansion' set after you've got your core. It's less useful as a 'first wave' purchase, but they're all solid units to expand what you've started with.

    From the POV of value for money as a 'start collecting' set this is solid (it's Geckos + Starter + WIldcart HRL and Wildcat Spitfire blisters). If you add Algs + Jags + Massacre + Support box to you've got the vast majority of list archetypes covered.

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Corregidor
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────
    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] GECKO 2 Combi Rifles, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / . (0 | 53)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (0.5 | 54)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GECKO PILOT 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] WILDCAT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (2 | 20)
    [​IMG] WILDCAT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] WILDCAT Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] WILDCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] WILDCAT (Number 2) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
    5.5 SWC | 300 Points
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  14. Fabbo

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    Thanks for all your answers. I really appreciate it.
     
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    Make sure you check back in when you get some more games! And you can always PM me with questions you don't want to make a thread for.
     
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    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    But then how will I make jokes about how much better furries are then meteor heads?
     
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    I've run the polls everyone agrees Corregidor is best.
     
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    Face facts, the [bold]polls[/bold] show that Tunguska is best. ;)