Indeed, I have to confess I'm a pretty noob player that loose all the time. Thanks for teaching me. Btw I'm talking about doing like 2 or 3 move-move orders. It's not that order consuming for one point without rolling a dice. I don't say it will happen all the time. I just say it's something that arise in some games. It never happened to you that the difference between a tie and a win (or between a minor and a major) is just to capture the HVT ?