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Check army, guys! :D

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by JacobJ, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. JacobJ

    JacobJ Active Member

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    This looks fun to me. Fireteam of Doom, and lots of things to push the opponent to where you want.

    Shasvastii Expeditionary Force
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    SHESKIIN Red Fury, Pulzar, D-Charges / Pistol, DA CCW. (1 | 54)
    TENSHO FTO Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    NOX Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Submachine Gun, Zapper / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    NOX Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Nimbus plus) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 17)
    T-DRONE FTO Missile Launcher, Flash Pulse / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 19)
    SPECULO KILLER Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1 | 34)
    SPECULO KILLER Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1 | 34)
    HAIDUK AP Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    HAIDUK AP Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    HAIDUK AP Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]8
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 297 Points

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  2. Raising

    Raising Member

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    no one notice this??

    OMG
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  3. El tito Zylito

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    i would like to see a good post with an experienced player taling about his opinion about the new changes, hehe gogo guys..:face_with_rolling_eyes:
     
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  4. JacobJ

    JacobJ Active Member

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    Sure :)
     
  5. smog

    smog Well-Known Member
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    Maybe give it more than a few hours. I’m pretty sure VaulSC will post a video in a few days
     
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  6. Raising

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    the dificult terrain from diferent dazers stop movement when they are overlapping?
     
  7. ijw

    ijw Wargaming Trader, Freelance Editor (UK)
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    Terrain movement penalties don't stack.
     
  8. Philamilapeed

    Philamilapeed Totally not a Speculo
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    I mean, I'm hardly a world-class player, but I have been playing SEF since N2 and even a lot in N3. I will miss having a Gwailo core and the Aswang, but the changes more than make up for their loss.

    In particular, changing my "brute-force" list from Gwailo + Hasht Core and 2 Q-Drones to Nox + Victor Core and 2 Ikadrons and 2 Q-Drones (MMS L2 and White Noise for the win) feels like a very good trade, even if the Nox are more restricted in their positioning than the old Gwailo.

    Of the new/reworked units, Caliban, Mentors and Taigha seem like the clear winners. Caliban for CoC or other specialist who can really pressure the midfield with good CC and gun options. Mentors for the safest Lt option to date plus Counterintelligence so you aren't punished for running 11-12 models. And Taigha to flank and force your opponent to be careful of their positioning and watch weird angles for a fast attack piece.

    Loser is in my opinion the Malignos. The new Killer Hacker is cool, but he's still very expensive for his kit (compare to Dasyu and be sad, and even Dasyu is sad compared to Proxy Mk2).
     
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  9. Bort

    Bort Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Wanna Get Off!

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    First list that popped into my head after looking at the update. Who knows if it's good, who knows if anyone will want to play infinity with me ever again if I use it, but I feel obligated to try this atleast once.

    Edit: Those two Caliban Spitfires are starting to look like they'd rather be two Speculo minelayers...

    I am required by law to play this list once
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    [​IMG]10
    CALIBAN (Multispectral Visor L1) Spitfire, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 40)
    CALIBAN (Multispectral Visor L1) Spitfire, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 40)
    MENTOR Lieutenant Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    SHROUDED (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Dazer / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    SHROUDED (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Dazer / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    SHROUDED MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 31)
    SHROUDED MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 31)
    CALIBAN (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife, CC Weapon. (0 | 30)
    CALIBAN (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Pulzar, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife, CC Weapon. (0 | 29)
    CADMUS-SOLDIER Hacker (EI Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 24)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  10. ijw

    ijw Wargaming Trader, Freelance Editor (UK)
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    Bear in mind that your Calibans don't have Multiterrain to be able to cope with the Dazers. :-(
     
  11. Bort

    Bort Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Wanna Get Off!

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    I didn't even notice the 0 swc minelayer got dazers instead. I guess the upside there is my Shrouded multisnipers get to start inside a saturation zone if I want for AROs
     
  12. smog

    smog Well-Known Member
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    Regardless of overlapping, difficult terrain halts movement for that order when you enter it. With very difficult terrain you also can not move-move with one order. This combined with tons of camo and decoys is going to force your opponent to spend a ton of orders just to root out your guys. While being swamped by taigha creatures.


    My first list:

    Sheskiin link──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 CALIBAN (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Pulzar, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife, CC Weapon. (0 | 29) NOX Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Nimbus plus) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 17) NOX Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Submachine Gun, Zapper / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) NOX Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle, Zapper / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) T-DRONE FTO Missile Launcher, Flash Pulse / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 19) VICTOR MESSER (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28) MENTOR Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22) SHROUDED (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) CADMUS-SOLDIER Red Fury / Pistol, CCW. (1 | 27) SHROUDED (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]4 SHESKIIN Lieutenant Red Fury, Pulzar, D-Charges / Pistol, DA CCW. (1 | 54) TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5) TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5) TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5) TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5) 6 SWC | 299 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    6 camo markers, of which 3 are actual troopers.
    Preferably going second.

    In my first turn the T-drone is probably dead.

    The taighas run in and start creating chaos in my opponent’s ranks. Need to deploy them carefully so their move won’t trigger template AROs that’ll hit my camo markers.

    Then I can move sheskiin over for free, join the link and start killing stuff. If the T-drone isn’t dead, I’ll drop the Cadmus and spend him instead of sheskiin the first turn. And then do the sheskiin move in turn two instead.

    The nox nimbus grenade launcher can force enemies to dodge sheskiins pulzar on -6 in addition to whatever damage she does with the red fury or even in cc.

    Between the link, all the camo and the taighas, the enemy should be swamped and I can spend the last two turns collecting objectives.
     
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  13. Tickle Monster

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    just noticed Ko Dali hanging out in Onyx. :slightly_smiling_face:
     
  14. WiT?

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    New Caliban are pretty sweet. I don't know if CoC works with Memnomica, but one issue I had with Avatar lists was the Avatar blowing up if it is KO, making repair units nonviable. A CoC Caliban can allow a Dr Worm for a more resilient Avatar. That Caliban MSV1 Spitfire is possibly the greatest profile in the history of the game. I hate camo mods and love models that can start up the table with some decent firepower.

    Wondering though about those Jayth. Firstly, is the mines on the Pit Patrol Taiga:Synch a typo? I believe I saw them on other Taiga earlier but not now. If we have our mine pretas back, even in this restricted form, thats a big deal. The other profiles seem incredibly legit. All the discount weapons (chain, SMG, red fury), ODD, great CC+NBW+DA, EM mines and even MSV1. Theres no core but I feel this type of CQB unit doesn't benefit as much from bodies and boosts relative to the higher risk of sending five dudes up the table. As a Haris, the Pit Patrol or possibly as the specialist solo this unit looks incredible.

    Seed Soldiers give us a sort of good and bad camospam. They can hatch in ARO and with ZoC ARO, but I'm not sure if they can go prone or if Limited Camo + Seed Embryo is still a situation of knowing exactly which things are seeds? A 17 point chest mine infiltrator that just sits on an isolated objective and maybe DEPs something is not a bad unit.

    The mine Speculo and Dazer shrouded profiles are a sick boost to Shas' ability to mess with the opponent. Really feels like a techy Ariadna instead of a crappy expensive Ariadna. And with the availability of MSV1 I feel we can finally contend with that faction.
     
  15. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Brisk antipodean

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    ...are the sync Taighas in the Pit Patrol supposed to have antipersonnel mines instead of a chain-colt?
     
  16. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    New skirmisher style profile too!
     
  17. smog

    smog Well-Known Member
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    I can’t wait to morpho-scan a motorcycle for a Mov 8-4 Cadmus
     
  18. Flipswitch

    Flipswitch Sepsitorised by Intent
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    Quad minelayer Shrouded w/ Dazer and w/ Mines is horrendous.


    Would do it again.
     
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