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Changes to Yu Jing you want

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Space Ranger, Aug 3, 2024.

  1. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    As it is Yu Jing will have some interesting fireteams Duos at their disposal and the MA3+ boost is quite good for that.
     
  2. crouchingotter

    crouchingotter Well-Known Member

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    One of the main changes I'd like to see is some new Yaozao sculpts. I think YJ is the last faction to have their peripheral remotes resculpted :)
     
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  3. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I am hopeful, yeah I’m setting myself up for disappointment, that next year YJ will be getting a lot of new things. For the last several years YJ has been mid to bottom for number of new figures. So far this year YJ has only received 3 new figures. Last year YJ would have been near the bottom if it wasn’t for REF. So, with the news of ISS getting re-done and at least two new White Banner troops (going by the background). We know about Long Wang TAG and the hover vehicle too. I think we could get some more cool stuff.

    I think we are also getting a new Hsien. The artwork we have seen shows an HI looking guy that looks a lot like a Hsien but he has a third eye in the forehead. It looks like they might be doing at least a little background on Chinese/Indian mythos. In Buddhist mythos, a third eye represents being able to see through falsehoods. This could be the MSV.
     
  4. Greysturm

    Greysturm Invincible Army Drill Sergeant/Military Theorist

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    We´ll probably get a few more ISS Resculps. (Looking at you Bao)

     
  5. TenNoBushi

    TenNoBushi Well-Known Member

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    This is the actual Hsien design (already three eyes and a bunch of glowing bits and bobs on the helmet).
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  6. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    One thing I want to know is, when ISS will be updated. They could do a revision like they did with Morats, Bakunin, MO. OR they are in the next two-army set next year. Which means it won’t be out until late next year.

    I can see them doing an ISS vs. QK box. Being that one is police and the other pirates; it could be fun and makes sense. I know they already did a YJ vs. Haqq set years ago but QK is the only one that makes sense to me right now. QK also needs a re-do. Haqq has gotten a lot of new figures this year but they haven’t had much in the last several.

    I think, the only other one they have talked about re-doing is Onyx. Though CA needs new figures like a hole in the head. They have been mid to the top of new figures for a few years now. But this year they have had only 2 new figures. I think we know that Onyx is getting team Achilles.

    There’s also some talk about ISS vs Tunguska too, but I’d be pissed if Nomads got new Tunguska right after a re-do of Bakunin! They got more new figures last year than many factions get in several years!

    Oh man! Shows how long it's been since i've looked at a Hsien!
     
  7. Henshini

    Henshini Well-Known Member

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    Little chinese zodiac inspired critters would be cool, like a robo pig, cat or ox. Adds some diversity in the remote units of the factions which I think is sorely needed.
     
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  8. Daireann

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    Something like this would be nice (from tag raid)
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  9. Benkei

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    ISS vs QK is police vs pirates, but we haven't seen anything about new QK minis, not even concepts. ISS vs Tunguska on the other side is police vs thieves/mafia and we have seen concepts for units both for ISS and Tunguska.
     
  10. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Too true. Nomads are CBs space marines. They can’t sell enough of them.

    If ISS is in a two-player set, then it probably won’t appear until gen con next year or later. So it gives me more time to play my O12 lol.
     
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  11. iKon

    iKon Not Very Well-Known Member

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    Earlier in the year I was hoping for ISS to be in a 2 player set but now I just want the miniatures to be released gradually because I don't want to wait for the next 2 player set slot.
     
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  12. Benkei

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    I don't think they are gonna wait until Adepticon/GenCom/whatever to release miniatures they got the concept for already. Specially when it seems this N5 launch has been rushed for some reason.
     
  13. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Right now I hesitate to guess. They never come out with anything the way I would expect them to do. I'll say what I'd like, and that's to do ISS like they did Morats, Bakunin, etc. I'm not a fan of the 2 player sets. Even if they came out with two armies I play. So far that's never happened. Some are talking about a YJ/Nomads set because of something they showed about the Essentials video. Just because the current Essentials is JSA/PanO, doesn't mean the next one will connected like that.
     
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  14. TenNoBushi

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    From Bostria explanations, if the rework of the sectorial is important enough, there will be something "big" for this sectorial (namely an action pack) with all the videos in a dedicated week etc.
    Don't expect graduale releases incoming from nowhere like it was the case for the Invincible Army or Tunguska for example.

    I'm expecting an action pack for ISS and Onyx next year : one at Adepticon, one at Gencon.
    With both con being 4 monthes appart it's already a lot of things to release in a third of a year.

    For Kazaks and and Tunguska releases, I expect them to be graduale.
    We already have the cyberantipode in December for Kazaks. Only remain the Konductors, Barsuk and TAG pilot, so two or three releases depending if there is a mix of unit in a box.
    Tunguska is more tricky as it needs a proper action pack, but they can build one like they did for the Invincible Army and, then release the four new units in three or four waves.

    For a new 2 players starter, I think they will wait for the next book featuring Haqqislam, ALEPH and Tohaa (?).
    So maybe at a con in 2026?
    That would also allow then to refresh the "Essential" range with the missing factions if they want : Haqqislam, ALEPH, IE, Ariadna, O-12, Tohaa (?)

    But with Sandtrap released out of a con (unless Spiel is now integrated in the loop) anything is possible.
     
  15. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I don't have much confidence. I'm glad YJ is getting anything but YJ is often shafted. Even when they have gotten new things they seem to still get less figures than others. Even the year Kalstrom came out. You would think they would have gotten a lot of new stuff but they were pretty middle. CA and O12 were top that year. White Banner really sucked when it first came out, then got better, and finally good now they have Daebak. CB has seemed to go out of their way to make sure YJ is mid. No one is ever going to complain that YJ or it's sectorals are broke lol.

    Number of new YJ figures, last 4 years
    2020: 12 (year of Kaldstrom)
    2021: 10
    2022: 5
    2023: 10
    2024: 3 so far
     
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  16. Daireann

    Daireann Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes. There is one moment I would like to see in N5 among releases.
    Jujak engineer with boarding shotgun and panzerfaust. I like this option. But that is not critical and important thing at all. (I am using for this profile missile launcher jujak like it is panzerfaust)
    Other things, really important, were mentioned before in this discussion.
     
  17. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    That's what I was using him for as well. It's a good proxy.

    I'm happy WB is getting the Hac Tao but I'm more excited for Gudan and Silver Snakes. I hope they are good cheap troops. I'm hoping they don't take out the Beasthunter. It's the best skirmisher they have.

    It's hard to say what will stay and go in IA. I gave up on IA a long time ago. I just couldn't play them. I hated how I felt I never had the tools to get the mission done.
     
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  18. Daireann

    Daireann Well-Known Member

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    I am fine, if some of new units would replace beasthunter, BUT I would prefer it stay. After all new miniature is nice (tag raid YJ beast hunter woukd be better, but even this one is good).

    About Hac Two, may be I would use him somehow, but existing miniature isn't what I like...
    My heart is cold.

    So many worries. Soon they would be over.
     
  19. Crusader

    Crusader HI connoisseur

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    Well that's ominoius. Considering I jumped into YJ after my Varuna with the definitive plan to play Invincible Army with lots of shang-jis and Zuyongs. At the worst I could still run Shang-Jis in White Banner, but I didn't planed to buy their Action pack so soon after investing into IA :sweat_smile:.
     
  20. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    It may be fun for you. It just wasn't for me. Hopefully they get some good changes. I just found it was a choice of guns OR specialists. Krit is great but the rest not so much. Few vets and Elites and all expensive. Once you take all specialists you think you need for a mission, you don't have points for good guns, if you do good guns you don't have points for specialists. The majority of the faction is made up of 25pt+ troops. One doctor, 4 engineers (2 of which are very squishy). If you take a full man core you probably don't have points for a good haris. Its' all this back and forth that was frustrating. It's a faction where you can't take all the toys you like.
     
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