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Brawlers

Discussion in 'Spiral Corps' started by OrderMonkey, Apr 4, 2019.

  1. TheRedZealot

    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    I've been pondering the Tri-Core for abit and it occured to me you could actually set up a link like this:

    You can stick the Brawler HRL out in the open or if you're feeling spending swap to 2 Brawler HRLs? Get some nice potshots off, and by the time the brawler dies you can just abandon the Brawler LT on a roof somewhere and still turn on the TriCore to get into another brawl in the midfield. I think it would require reforming the link though.

    Spiral Corps
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    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    TAAGMA (White Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)

    4.5 SWC | 100 Points

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  2. Zachilles

    Zachilles Well-Known Member

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    I had never though of that and actually really love the idea. Building off that I've come up with this.

    Brawler
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    KRIIGEL Breaker Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DRAAL (Minelayer) AP Marksman Rifle, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1 | 40)
    KERAIL PRECEPTOR Submachine Gun, Smoke Grenades + 2 Surda SymbioBeasts / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] SURDA SYMBIOBEAST Pulzar / Viral CCW. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]4
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    CLIPSOS (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    KAELTAR Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioBombs / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    Brawler link with the HRL and MSV out on ARO duty. If the HRL dies you can leave the MSV linked for the extra burst and grab both the kriigel and Draal or grab either or and take the MSV with you. The Draal works fine as a solo piece until hes needed and the Kriigel in the reex link can do some work as well.
     
  3. Spellbreaker90

    Spellbreaker90 Well-Known Member

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    I don't like it a lor for the fact that if just one Taagma dies you have a wasted Tri-Core.
    I like the Tri more for a offensive run rather than keeping him back for ARO, +3 BS is really usefull for us considering the only good visor it's on a Sniper.
     
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  4. TheRedZealot

    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    You've still got 200~pts to spend. and you'll almost always have a draal in the midfield in case the worst happens. It definitely relies on safe guard the tri core of course but with the amount of midfield pressure Spiral can exude I feel comfortable saying that you can defend at the very least the tri-core in the majority of games.
     
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  5. Zachilles

    Zachilles Well-Known Member

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    The more I think about it the more I love the idea and its a very neat way to utilize tri-core. You're already bringing the Tri-Core and Sniper Taagma, so for the cost of either two brawlers and another Taagma or 3 brawlers you get a pseudo second core, like 1.5 core teams in your list. I have been having a lot of success using a Tri-core with a smoke lgl kriigel and Sniper Taagma, this plays right into what i've already been doing. I also don't hate the idea of throwing in doctor engineer and hacker brawlers for countermeasures.
     
  6. Spellbreaker90

    Spellbreaker90 Well-Known Member

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    Sure you have other piece, what I fear is that if you have to use another model other than Taagma for the Triad the situation could be clunky. Usually you want to position Sniper and HML in good position on the backline to have good vision and making more difficult for your opponent to reach the Link. The moment even just one Taagma dies you will have to use order to move you Link toward the 3rd model that could be not near, taking the example of the Draal you will have to reach midfield, that at least 2 order that I feel "wasted".

    I think at the end is a matter of preference, for me having just one Tri-Core, I prefer to put him in action from the start rather than using him as a reserve even because between Brawler Core + Taagma and another Triad with Tri-Core (even just Tri-Core + 2Chaksa) you have 2x 5 man Link.
     
  7. TheRedZealot

    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    Its definitely a going second sort of tactic. But in my experience most of the time the brawler will be dead by the time you start your first turn going second.

    I've been considering doing a list like this to use this idea.

    Roulette Wheel Links
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    TAAGMA Lieutenant Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    DRAAL Submachine Gun, Pulzar, D-Charges, Dazer / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    DRAAL Submachine Gun, Pulzar, D-Charges, Dazer / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]3
    IGAO Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    KRIIGEL Breaker Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    DIPLOMATIC DELEGATE (iKohl L1, Specialist Operative) Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    The really nice thing about it is all the different combos of links we can set up.

    Core 5 Man For AROs
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    TAAGMA Lieutenant Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)

    I can't believe it's not a haris!
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    TAAGMA Lieutenant Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)

    Draal Overwhelming
    DRAAL Submachine Gun, Pulzar, D-Charges, Dazer / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    DRAAL Submachine Gun, Pulzar, D-Charges, Dazer / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)

    Chaksa, I Choose You!
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)

    Covering Fire!
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)

    Synch bots are cool but have you heard of Special Triads?
    TAAGMA Lieutenant Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)

    Double Buffed Viralos
    DRAAL Submachine Gun, Pulzar, D-Charges, Dazer / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)


    Also BS14, B3, SS2 Pistol Chaksa Exist if you ever needed that in your life for some reason?
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
     
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  8. Spellbreaker90

    Spellbreaker90 Well-Known Member

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    You missed my favorite Link.

    Spiral Corps
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    BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    BRAWLER Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    1.5 SWC | 61 Points
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    The Taagma is Holoprojected as a Brawler with HML. Nice smoke you have there.
     
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  9. LZ35SRX

    LZ35SRX Well-Known Member

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    Guys, guys, you keep missing out on the best ARO Core option in Spiral.
    Edit: OTOH Spellbreaker ninja'ed me a little =)

    Spiral Corps
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    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    TAAGMA Lieutenant Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    BRAWLER Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)

    3 SWC | 105 Points

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    Play versus a smoke-heavy opponent. Deploy Viral Sniper Taagma as a Brawler HRL. Deploy him and Brawler Sniper near each other on ARO duty. Then, when opponent tries either a) to smoke and then FtF the Brawler, or b) to smoke and try to apply -6 to "Brawler", you greet them with surprise two Viral shots.

    Mindgames are the best. Playing Tohaa I once made my opponent waste a turn by deploying Taagma as a Sukeul ML in a Triad overwatching half the table xD
     
  10. TheRedZealot

    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    Definitely not a terrible idea. My own experience I have had trouble getting this concept to work mainly because the -6 doesn't take effect vs. SSL2 so most people don't bother to try and isolate with smoke and remove since its mostly just wasted orders. They go right for gentle peeking into the sniper/HRL.