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Blackout, Spotlight and Deployable Equipment.

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by Anonymous, Jul 21, 2019.

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  1. Anonymous

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    Let’s say theres a revealed mine in my Hacker’s ZOC, the mine is out of LDT, could I declare the use of the Spotlight Program to Mark said mine?

    Also, Can I blackout an enemy Sniffer and then proceed to use Spotlight on it?
     
  2. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    From both the Spotlight and Blackout pages, there is a reminder box with this text:

    However, pieces of Equipment (Deployable Repeaters, Sniffers, FastPandas...) are unable to declare Reset.

    I'd say that's pretty definitively in the affirmative.
     
  3. Hecaton

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    There are a decent amount of people who argue that the Targeted state does nothing to non-troopers, however. I think that's crazy, but they seem to think that's how it works.
     
  4. Ogid

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    I'd say you can use these hacking programs;
    However, the targeted state effects only name "Troopers", so the targeted state would do nothing (no +3, no -6 of speculative fire...); maybe the only thing would be guided attacks (because the guided label states "target", not "target trooper"; but in the state say troopers, so that's also arguable
    And again the Disabled state states "trooper" in the effect bullet points; so RAW, it'd not work on a piece of equipment.

    However the states rules need a good rewrite, these rules feel like they were written without some targets in mind; and now it's like that was the intended functionality all along... which creates weird cases like these (you can target non troopers and the effect do nothing...)
    As a rule of thumb, states for troopers (with the exception of "damaged")
     
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  5. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    I would always try to ask your opponent how this is played beforehand. My last tournament had the grid in it and the TO even ruled that the Antennae would be targeted (and you get +3 for it) at the same time you activate them with FO.

    As a sidenote nothing against the TO here it was very clearly communicated that this would be how it works before the tournament.
     
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  6. Click2kill

    Click2kill Well-Known Member

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    In the case of Blackout, Blackout can only target Comms Equipment. Comms Equipment is not a trooper, but rather a target. It would be strange that you can Blackout someone carrying Comms Equipment, but when they deploy such in a state that is actually turning it on, you can no longer target the gear with the proper hacking program.
     
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