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Bakunin Wild Wishing

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by Hachiman Taro, Mar 22, 2019.

  1. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    In order;
    Don't think so and if they were I doubt we will ever see 7 or 8 point moderators
    definitely paying for that CC19 and EXP CCW, would love to see them pick up MA1 or have all the CC toned back and have the mimetism upgraded to ODD.
    Could be cool, but BJC already packs a ridiculous amount of E/M on better platforms so it would need to do something unique.
    I really want this now.
    Prowlers are meant to be the beat stick version of the Zero, and an SMG while effective would be somewhat lazy, but i would love to see them get their points tweaked such that an AHD and/or MULTI Rifle wouldn't be stupid expensive.
     
  2. Hachiman Taro

    Hachiman Taro Inverted gadfly

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    I like the fluff of the Rev Healer being nasty in CC, but I dunno I'd ever really use it even if it was a bit better given her slow speed, great WBs as an alternative, and the fact she wrecks face with a shotgun at close range anyway on 22's. iKhol might be cool, but still basically bloat in crunch terms.

    Zappers on Moderators instead of electric pulse and shock immunity would really work on a number of levels (crunch and fluff). As would allowing something better to go in a mixed link with them.

    MPGA (Make Prowlers Great Again) in the fashion of Bolts (price drop, better loadouts) would be amazing. What we really need is for them to add them to an NA2 faction, so they need them to pull their weight to sell that.
     
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  3. neostrider

    neostrider Well-Known Member

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    I don't think if prowlers as grown up zeroes. The Bolts comparison is more appropriate and a good example. 150% the cost, but 1/3 the options, less bs, and bioimmunity with 0 bts. For camo and infiltrate.

    I love camo and infiltrate, I just can't wrap my head around the prowler kit. Camo tactics are so strong I don't usually need the arm or +2 bs he gets over our hero Zero. Anything I've done with them I've thought a zero could have done cheaper. (Except d charge obj. 30 pts buys 1 obj)
     
  4. Hachiman Taro

    Hachiman Taro Inverted gadfly

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    Prowlers: Swap combis for SMGs (apparently = -5pts) , swap Grenades for E-marat (or Zapper, or other DTW). Swap Bioimmunity for Shock Immunity and Dogged. Drop Spitfire to 1.5 SWC. Drop SWC cost on Specialist Operative. Every profile is then usable.
     
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  5. neostrider

    neostrider Well-Known Member

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    Something like this would inject life into the unit. I'd keep the grenades, leave the E/M to the moiras, and dogged might be a bit much.

    Lft, SMG, grenades, and about 6 points cheaper MI and I have a good midfield control unit that didn't break the bank. It can't blitz the enemy dz efficiently, but has a wide set of tools to slow an advance without being just another minelayer.
     
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  6. Click2kill

    Click2kill Well-Known Member

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    I agree with keeping the Grenades. The Boarding Shotgun/Grenade profile is probably the best Prowler profile, IMO.

    Bioimmunity isn't bad, because these guys lack any BTS, and they can take Viral shots with their ARM save. That said, it would be nice if they had Intruder armor(3), since they are MI and have 0 BTS, considering how expensive they are.
     
  7. McNamara

    McNamara Merc Rep

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    Cheaper Prowlers with EM are basically Hecklers. ;)
     
  8. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Which means that they're not an issue from a power creep POV. Tougher, more killer further forward deployed vs slower.

    Dogged + SI would sell the difference.
     
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  9. neostrider

    neostrider Well-Known Member

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    Just noticed. Moiras only have 2 EM profile and 1 is an unimpressive E/Mitter. I guess I remember the fluff more than the crunch. At least it's cheap.
    So add more E/M options for Moiras to my list.

    Also more 'weird' characters. I like Brando because he feels very Bakunin. I hope a named moderator spec ops is going to be super weird. Total immunity, regeneration, and a decent enough gun your opponent cries he keeps getting up
     
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  10. Del S

    Del S Nomadball

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    Any Moderator spec-ops we get has to be A LOOSE CANNON... BUT A DAMN GOOD COP!
     
  11. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    I want a moderator spec-ops with FO, combi/adhl, iKohl, MA, and a stun CCW.
     
  12. Click2kill

    Click2kill Well-Known Member

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    A moderator spec-ops that is a chimera basically lol.
     
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  13. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Nah. Guys get onboard.

    Spec Ops are based on Line Troops.
    Bakunin Line Troops are Morlocks.

    Morlock Spec Ops now!
     
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  14. dalaule

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    I'd love a Daktari Spec-Ops. :p
     
  15. neostrider

    neostrider Well-Known Member

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    That'd compete with avicenna too much.

    Ss2 bug antenna detective with an exp pistol and contender!

    Or hellboy. We could have moderator hellboy.
     
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  16. McNamara

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    Moderator with Transmutation into a Morlok.
     
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    Moderator with Transmutation into an entire Uberfallkommando Team. And a clearly wriggling trenchcoat.
     
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  18. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see Prowlers be made into something genuinely cool and interesting to play

    At the moment they're one of the very few Nomad troops I just can't get to work.
     
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  19. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
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    Ok, I have a hilarious idea for a bootleg - three small Pupniks dressed up as a Heckler :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
     
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  20. Hachiman Taro

    Hachiman Taro Inverted gadfly

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    Red Fury for Prowler rather than Spitfire might be nice. It didnt exist when they were designed. And if its only 1 SWC for Sheskiiin it surely cant be more for a BS12 MI right?
     
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