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Bakunin revamp: what's going, what's staying

Discussion in 'News' started by burlesford, Feb 3, 2023.

  1. anubis

    anubis sarcastic exaggerator

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    Damn, are you fast @fari , but you forgot one very important thing :)

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  2. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    riot core still exist. BAD

    I dont see Sin Eater sniper being able to link. Useless profile

    Cenobites... Mim -6 HI for 22pts? WTF?

    I like the initiated nuns

    Stigmata. Horrendous desing, lovely stats and skills

    Agata. Wow. Cost too high for a dogged troop
     
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  3. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    This is not what I expected. Very interesting! A Reverend pure core will be interesting with 2 Cenobytes to cheapen the link.

    I see Robin Hook as a mobile repeater that stays someplace inconvenient to remove.

    I am also glad they are moving into more Sectorial-Only units!
     
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  4. burlesford

    burlesford Sheet guy

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    I love all the new profiles and think they're pretty balanced (except for Mother Agatha being too expensive), but I'm sad we didn't get any news on updates to the existing profiles like Moiras, Custodier, and Healers. Well, gotta wait until the 23rd then...
     
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  5. Wizzy

    Wizzy Well-Known Member

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    Stigama is new, it looks like it has for reference evangelion. :thinking_face:
     
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  6. anubis

    anubis sarcastic exaggerator

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    HOLY F**** Yes plz! HackerTAG gonna ruin your day :-D This beast looks awesome and will be a fun to play! Cant wait, tbh.


    Same thought ^^ Why paying god damn mid twenty points for a dumb myrmidon when you can have ass kicking ladys with double the wounds :-D

    Linkteams are more or less the same, but a new observance link and a Advanced deployment for the Alien-squad with robin hook. Don´t think that´s make the Longarms immensly more viable, but at least some fun gimmick.

    And who would have thought: Riot girrls and Moderators still exist, and even more: they still are playable in their known link constalation.

    Orphans seem to be a nice toolkit option to fill in a linkteam, as i thought comparable to Order sergeants, but more specialist.

    Cenobites are... wow... no words. Run in this direction, kill everything you (beware: pun intended:) see.

    Penitent observant seems a bit blunt, nothing i would fancy but i guess i will run it to try it.

    Mother agatha looks like a beast with the stateline behind mimetism -6, but is defenetly on the expensive end with 1wound dogged, for she cannot heal herself in that state.

    Robin looks like a Special-rule carrier for everything someone found in the closet: booty, advanced deployment, SJ, C+, ECM, repeater, stealth, Transmutation, TI, drop bears, tacBow +3, rifle +1B, ..... and that all for 23 opoints :-D lovin it, that sounds like fun to play

    The initiativ observants give bakunin only some parachutists. also nice.

    And Stigmata... well.... I just love it already :-D This TAG looks amazing, and its something new to have a TAG thats mainly based on hacking. That one realy exits me
     
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  7. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    okay, deep breath.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    deep breath

    AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Man, did bakunin just get the best warband in the game? I think so.

    And what's a PanO cheerleader doing in observance?

    The Stigmata is awesome and pure Nomads though. Shame it doesn't go on vanilla. The initiate is also pretty cool and could go into vanilla without upending the game.

    The rest of the observance stuff? Gosh, these ladies are kinda strong, innit?
     
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  8. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    stigmata goes to vanilla, but for 2 SWC. The 1.5 SWC option is the Bakunin-only one
     
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  9. anubis

    anubis sarcastic exaggerator

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    stigma does go vanilla, but for 2 SWC instead of 1,5, if i read the * correctly

    edit.: got ninjad again by @fari
     
  10. vaguerant

    vaguerant Lieutenant Level 0

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    Not that I’m complaining as a guy pretty heavily invested into Bakunin, but isn’t the HRL Cenobite basically a very cheap Phoenix for Bakunin in a link? Keeps many of the best parts of him but loses smoke, but for way less points, and can additionally go into a pure five woman link if desired to even out the BS?

    I’m gonna enjoy that profile.
     
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  11. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    I think it does, just for 2 SWC. The Bakunin-only profile is identical but 1.5 SWC.
     
  12. burlesford

    burlesford Sheet guy

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    It is. But it's mitigated by the fact that the Reverend core will still be expensive, and the Observance fireteam can only Haris. It's a really interesting choice now between the Riot Grrl ML with MSV1 and Dam 15 ML and the Cenobite HRL with Mim -6 for 5pts less.
     
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  13. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    Let's not kid ourselves here:
    Cenobites are way, way busted. Mim-6 on a 2 wound platform is good. Burst 2 in CC is good. HI in full links getting all the bonuses are good.

    Cenobites would be cool with just one of those. They get all 3 instead.

    These girls body half the warbands in the game through sheer resilience, and can call in their buddies to gang on anything bigger. They're hilariously strong and the only thing keeping people from starting another flame war on wether or not nomads are OP is the fact they're 'bakunin-only'
     
  14. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    No Moderator core anymore. Thats a bummer and damn some of those seem very cheap.
    The penitent is kinder meh, carries a huge ass sword but can't do seit with it.
    The design for the Stigmata is horrendous the rules are cool but BS13 on a TAG? Just give the hacking device to the lizard...
    The orphans engi, repeater with EM mines and the cenobites are great. Mimetism the sectorial. But with white noise.

    I would have wished for a sectorial overview to know if things like zeros and prowlers are still a Thing.
     
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  15. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    it's a shame not being able to make an assault haris with Cenobite, Vostok and Kusanagi, but still can make a full mim -6 haris mixing units
     
  16. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Moderators are Max 5 in the Fireteam so seems likely to be a mistake.
     
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  17. burlesford

    burlesford Sheet guy

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    The Stigmata is a light S6 TAG like the Gecko. Geckos are BS13 too. Nothing outrageous here. And I personally find the design absolutely gorgeous. Reminds me of the Lizard.

    I second the wish for a Sectorial overview though.
     
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  18. redeemer

    redeemer Well-Known Member

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    OK we got some new super cool profiles time to theory-craft some lists. the 40k sisters are more than impressive, especially the cenobites. Agatha has great stats but feels overpriced a bit until she is tested on the table I reserve judgment(also how the hell is she mimetism 6 and stealth when she is built like a rhino.). Robin's profile seems interesting and at 23 points might be a fun addition. The Stigmata profile got to be the star of the show hacker with +1B with good armor and bst the lizard re-work better be amazing couse I think she took his job.
     
  19. tox

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    Just wait... Maybe the Stigmata will be simply a Hacker (Carbonite +2 damage) and not a full Hacking Device...
     
  20. Modock

    Modock Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, looks like it.
     
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