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Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by muffinlove, Dec 29, 2018.

  1. muffinlove

    muffinlove New Member

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    I need some help to build a avatar list or more ide's on how to play the avatar/faction .

    Iv been playing a lot of PanO/Alehp/Yu Jing and a bit of JSA. Yes i have a lot of factions. But i play pano the most and almost only tag's.

    For me combin is a hard faction to under stand and build a list for the new missions.

    Some help is needed all the best.

    This is one list iv been trying out.
    [​IMG] Mega blaster of doom.
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    [​IMG] AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] NEXUS Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nullifier / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] MAAKREP TRACKER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 33)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] ZERAT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  2. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    I would say generally that your Nexus Hacker isn't really contributing much to that list since the usual value of a vanilla hacker in support of a TAG - exorcism - is unnecessary when using the Avatar. You're also very heavy on specialists, but don't have any offensive power outside the avatar itself. Some secondary striker would do you well to let you cover more ground and keep the avatar a bit safer - a speculo is popular for this purpose but there are a lot of options.

    You can also play the Avatar as the center or gravity for a high model count list focused otherwise on warbands, but that list type has much less specialist coverage. Did you have any missions in particular you were looking to build this for?
     
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  3. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    Try to fit in the Q-Drone, then the Nexus can buff her. It's a very good defensive and active attack peace too.
    The Speculo is tricky to play but can be a valuable asset.

    On the bottom of that article you find all lists of the interplanetario and there where played many Avatar lists. Perhaps it 7s helpful for you.
     
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  4. muffinlove

    muffinlove New Member

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    Well the only reson why i have the hacker there is for hacking missions and also a aro for ad drops. I need to play bit a lot more and push her up the bord. Iv been thinking about a tr bot but i feel a specelo is better to remove scary models.

    The tracker sniper is a model i need to play more to, iv never gotten my snipers to work, but they are a paint to meet when they pin you down.

    Nowbi have new things to think about .
     
  5. jfunkd

    jfunkd hard forum hittin Carlos
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    Without changing your list too much, I suggest dropping the worm for the Kurgat engineer an then getting the EVO for the Nexus. With so few bodies to doctor, the Kurgat is going to be able to fix most of what you need and can afford a helper bot. The e-drone brings some more utility if you start reactive, can break up link teams, and is still a fast specialist.

    Mega blaster of doom.
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    AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137)
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    MAAKREP TRACKER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 33)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    ZERAT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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    Personally I'd probably drop the Sniper for a HMG q-drone and use the extra points to get something like a Krakot, but it's really a personal choice.
     
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  6. Hivedragon

    Hivedragon Dein schlimmster Albtraum

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    [​IMG] Avatar & Rem──[​IMG]10

    [​IMG] AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) [​IMG]
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] SPECULO KILLER Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Gren. / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1 | 34)
    [​IMG] E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pul. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pul. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)[​IMG] R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pul. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charg., Antiper. Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 299 Points
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  7. Hivedragon

    Hivedragon Dein schlimmster Albtraum

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    I never play the Avatar without a speculo Killer at his side,so I take advantage of his Strategos N3 ability.I also prefer a kurgat in the list because almost all the models on the list are REM (the speculo Killer hat automedikit and usually dies away from the kurgat.)
    I also play with E-drone to have burst 2 with all my remotes equipped with repeater,so they can help the Q-drone in defensive function.

    PD:Sorry for my English level,I'm not a English speaker.
     
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  8. Hivedragon

    Hivedragon Dein schlimmster Albtraum

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    [​IMG] Avatar & liberto[​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1

    [​IMG] AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) [​IMG]
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] SPECULO KILLER Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Gren. / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1 | 34)
    [​IMG] SHROUDED Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Ant. Mines / Pi., Knife. (0.5 | 30)
    [​IMG] LIBERTO Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pul. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pul. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)

    6 SWC | 300 Points
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    This List hat mercenaries and also camouflaged TO be more complete and easier to play (I really love the libertos ❤️)
     
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  9. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Avatar/Speculo is life.
     
  10. muffinlove

    muffinlove New Member

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    Haha this is crazy man i was working on a list like this but you naild it for me. Im going to twek this list s bit more.

    Doc work was in the list to do the med missions and hvt prob. I was talking to friend about this and i think its better to bring the morat. You loss one in wip but the extra points are fantastic.
     
  11. muffinlove

    muffinlove New Member

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    I like this sort of mech list i play them a lot in pano. But a big problem in are meta is a lot hackers and lots pf smoke thats why i have a msv2 in the list. But i can the controll you get from the specelo killer out there .
     
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  12. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Speculo is a good psychological threat - especially combined with Strategos 3. They will always deploy their entire list before you have to place the Avvie and the Speculo. So you always get to place the Speculo somewhere it will be a thorn in your opponent's side and tie up a bunch of orders/cause max damage to their key pieces.
     
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  13. muffinlove

    muffinlove New Member

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    It feels like the specelo is a model that needs its own time to master. Like you said you want to put it somewhere just to make your opponent nervuos to make that bad move. Combin has been for me a army that is hard to play it has a lot of good tools but hard to master.

    I will try a sepc/avatar list to at the moment i have a anatamatik list where the specelo is the star player.
     
  14. InMac

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    Standart game
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    AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137)
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    SHROUDED (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    SPECULO KILLER Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1 | 34)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE Submachine Gun, Chest Mine / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    Q-DRONE Plasma Rifle / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    No more tricks listed here, Speculo+Q-drone in the same list you don't have 0,5SWC to add a cheap hacker for the assited fire, you need always Bit or if you want Kerr-Nau, are the great addons as a solid specs like the Shrouded. Avatar are inmune to be possesed, that reason are i don't need to put a HD, but... Avatar's problem are the Isolate state, Oblivion programs... that's Bit's job. You have already a very nice ARO team on your deploy side, nothing to expose lot's of dudes, only focus your best ranges and your specs with a Q-drone plasma gunship.

    Alpha strike v2
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    AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137)
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    KO DALI Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. (0 | 38)
    SPECULO KILLER Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1 | 34)
    KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    MORAT Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    And the same tricks with the anathematic list... feel for free if the enemy dosen't expose so much their army, again, strategos3 with avatar+speculo on reserve and find the better exposed sides to drop the speculo and then, first order from the vanguard on assited jump for Ko Dali, even if your enemy have been ready to don't expose anithing for the fear of the noctifer. A cheap vanguard are a best dress to hide a drooptropper, but that, you paying 1 regular order, so... ¿worth it with 9 orders when you have the smoke ready if you get in for one side on jump lvl 2? or maybe start with 8 with the lvl4 jump, all enemy pieces can be more easy to hunt.
     
  15. muffinlove

    muffinlove New Member

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    Iv been playing the mech liat now a lot and it took me some time to under stand it. Iv met nomads and tak ( the russiens).

    I did not think about it at first but its sort of like the nca squalo list. Where you just put out sniffers all over town then you go to tow whit the avatar.

    The specelo takes out something good on the other side. The i just try and push back so i get bord controll and set the tempo.

    This weekend im going to play at a tournament will give some feedback from that.

    Im playing the avatar remot list.
     
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