Well we are going around in circles. I don't agree with you. And that's fine, we don't agree. You seem hell-bent on nerfing SMG'S where as I'm not opposed to it if it's done in conjunction with buffs to pickup slack where it's needed but I'm completely opposed to just knee jerk nerfing something without thorough examination of how that affects other things within the game. But yeah we don't agree. So I'll leave this as my last response. I respect that our experience within the game is different but two entrenched views aren't worth digging further into.