[April], come she will...

Yea, but I've also just saw that Celestial Guard can take WIP14 FO with BSG for 13 pts, something I dont remember seeing on table (probably due to Kuang Shi spam), now I just got even more salty about OS xD

Srsly how 13pts WIP14 FO BSG is not considered almost a pinaccle of DZ defense (I know it lacks DTW), everything which comes within 8" you blast usually on 14s, everything else you Flash Pulse on 14s xD

 

Because Kuang Shi.

Kuang Shi solve everything.

Kuang Shi are love, Kuang Shi are life.

 

I use them all the time, but I'm also weird and don't like Kuang Shi, unlike nearly everyone else on these forums. CGFO's only shortcoming is that they can't pretend to be LT (Cry Me a River by Justin Timberlake).

Also, I'm willing to bet that you get jumped on over the OS issue due to TOFOOS, who have even more exploitable abilities that a single point isn't much reason to cry over. That 1 point would make a world of difference for non-Specialist Sergeants, I bet.

 

Some actions are almost always considered morally bad from a neutral point of view. Things like controlling freedom of speech, media, deterring political opposition might be considered morally gray or necessary in some situations from some point of view. But ISS takes this a few degrees forward by turning some political opposition into suicide zombies robbing free will and giving them a delayed death sentence worse than an actual death sentence. Pretty sure this would be considered "evil" (or very amoral) from most if not all ways we see it.

 

Yes.

As I've stated several times all over, TOFOOS are single best unit in MO which is bit sad considered they are most generic "TO skirmish" there (most lean too, but Tohaa Clipsos are not far behind, also Posthuman TO versions are even dirtier).

Also TOFOOS spam is only possible as CB had not decided to "fix" Order Sergeant problem by splitting specialist and normal sergeants (which results in some hilarious limitations like unlinkable HD which because of that is always ignored :P)

 

I can't see how the weird scythe would mesh with the rest of the JSA. For now it seems like the reference to Durara went way too far.
Maybe my opinion will change depending on how the final model ends up.

 

And Hexadrom kills their own operatives to cover up loose ends, who is "badier" now ?

 

So would making University politics a lethal place to go to (Hassassins), having street signs that part of your population can't see unless they pay for their ComLog upgrades (PanO), turning your society rejects into drug fuelled meatshields (Nomads), being racist towards part of your population (Ariadna), being SKYNET (Aleph), being the Illuminati (Tohaa) or being the giant blob of doom (CA).

And the emperor guarantees justice, so its not like the Kuang Shi are innocent. Hell, a lobby can influence PanO justice way easier than the Party can influence the Imperial Judiciary of Yu Jing.

 

Two wrongs obviously don't make a right.

But in this particular example ISS is the badier. Hexa operatives were part of a shady shit and got burned. It would be equivalent to the Quang Shi's case if disgraced Celestial Guards were used for this program... in which case it would be a tough comparison.

Again this doesn't mean PanO clearly have the moral high ground against Yu Jing despite CB's continuous attempts to make them look like some human villain empire in the story settings and campaign narratives.

edit:

Again two wrongs don't make a right. No faction is innocent, but some factions do commit these stuff more frequently than others. CB's tendency to force YJ into a somewhat villainous role in active lore like the BoW campaigns don't help the cause either.

But if this is any consolation CA is definitely the biggest, absolute mostache twirling bad guys in this settings.

 

Alright, so the scythe has to go, naturally. Probably to be replaced by a naginata, or just a sword. The big HI has got some remodelling to look forward to as well. Or it can say hello to my bits box if the profile lacks ranged weapons.

Now the silhouette to the far right, is that a rocket launcher?

 

Is it ? Tbh. I've must have missed it. Yu-Jing seems for sure much ruthless than PanO, but it's mostly the cosmetics.

Similar how to people in "our" west think about their own superiority due to common assumtion that only "baddies" are spying on their own civilians :)

 

Maybe... the edge is outside instead of inside?

 

Well, so far I see moaning about two named characters and mid-tier budget cheerleaders. Last ones could be replaced with Kuang Shi + regular cheerleaders and named characters being cornerstone of faction listbuilding is a problem itself. If absence of one-two characters cripple your faction listbuilding - it is something wrong with faction. Only one that could be forgiven here is Steel Phalanx because it was advertised and purposefully designed in that way.

UPD: Oh, and ninjas. I think ninjas will persist or be replaced with another same role unit. Well... at the end faction already have infiltrating camo HI, that`s unique.

 

It`s too early to define especially without pose but naginata could do the job. I think there are plenty of good-looking fantasy replacements.

 

Ah, no it's just a combi she's resting on her shoulder, upside down. I suppose the two to the right are keisotsu then.

 

I don't have any stake in Yu Jing (no models right now, but maybe in the future), but darn it if all this isn't exciting!

I hope that when Kazak is released and MRRF re-released there is at least half as much hubub.

 

You don't seem to understand the quid of the problem: it's not about powergaming or profiles. I PAID for the Japanese models I own, I spent valuable time and effort painting them so I could play them without playing a sectorial, models nobody told couldn't play with my faction; in fact, some of those models made me want to play my faction even when I don't want to play the "omgimaotakunerdspacesamuraisftwomgomg" sectorial.

If CB really prevents me from playing the models I bought from them because they think it's "funny", are they gonna give me my money back? Considering the amount of shit GW got for pulling the same crap WITHOUT TELLING THEIR CLIENTS THEY WERE OBSOLETING THEIR MODELS FOR FUN, I'm beyond amazed about a) CB doing the same, and b) people actually saying they are great for doing it, probably the same people who demonized GW for years.

If they do it, that is.

 

The actual mini wields an actual scythe while riding a bike, no simbolism here. Because copying nerd/pop culture references even when it makes no sense seems to be a thing now.

 

So far I see assholes telling Yu jing players it's not that big, Go and lose a third of your faction if its not that big.