Yeah I did, dropped it right in the back corner in a game of Power Pack so I could kill the ML bot with one order. That was v useful. I think that over a Tomcat Carlota is like... you put her in the list cos the B2 ADHL and the Parachutist (DZ) might come in handy and she has slightly better stats. Some games, it'll never come up. But if you see an opening, it totally make be a game winning play.
The other way to use her of course is to run a 14 Trooper list that doesn't have her in it. At least against players who are good at protecting themselves from AD.
I ran 9 and 4 with Carlota in group 1 my opponent lived in fear of like, a BSg Hellcat or something all game. But there was none. Just couldn't fit a last guy in hahaha
So here's a question regarding Carlota: any news of a new sculpt for her? Because the current sculpt is... fugly.
Possibly in the Corregidor/Nomad wave that's coming with the next Operation box. Nothing confirmed so far (though we've had a good chunk of other units, Wildcats, Evaders, Alguaciles, etc) but I could see her in a Beyond box or booster pack, if not as a separate N4 blister.
I was thinking about using the new Kusanagi for her (and her model for Billie, maybe), since I ply CJC but like the new sculpt
I see, thanks. Not sure about using Kusanagi for Carlota... too different for my tastes, personally speaking. Guys, if I may ask a related question: are Tomcats useful in general? They seem to be a slightly weaker version of Hellcats, just with more gadgets and Doctor / Engineer skills... But those skills can be covered by fielding Daktaris and Clockmakers. So... what are Tomcats for?
A Tomcat can drop straight in next to a TAG or Rambo you've been pushing up a flank, no having to spend orders moving a servant or trooper into b2b combat, climbing plus also allows them to get places other support troopers can't get. They're also a very useful objective grabber or repeater bearer (who needs pitchers when you can just drop in a Tomcat with Deployable Repeaters!)
The mini can do with an update, with all the Tomcats, but I disagree it is "fugly". However, as a matter of taste, I will not delve into that. Tomcats in general are great troops. They are capable doctos and engineers that can enter through the side with flamers, repeaters or a Panzerfaust. We can then push aggressive pieces upboard (like McMurder, or an attack Remote) and a Tomcat can swoop in and recover them easily and more efficient that pushing a weak Dak or Clockmaker from the depth of your DZ. They are also capable fighters, a Climbing+ guy with a flamer can torch a sniper. They have won me a game or two in N3. I also love the old sculpts and own like 5 of them...
Hmmm. Could you explain to me how their deployment works? As I understand, they can enter the game through any edge of the table (enemy DZ excluded). But... they still need to start moving from the very edge of the table, right? So - what's the upside here? They still have a lot of ground to cover, if they are to get to a trooper in need of assistance...
They cant be scalpeled by enemy pieces so you will always have that doctor or engineer available. Whether or not they have a lot of ground to cover is on you, where possible if your push that TAG or HI up a flank and within an order or two of the board edge they are going to fairly close to help if they need it. Additionally, they will be coming in from an expected angle as opposed from the DZ so they will more than likely be facing less enemy defences. and it is also more efficient if you have pushed deep into their side of the table. Also a tomcat is great for tagging scenario objectives out on the flanks late game and picking up a supply box that is being carried by your opponent. or in he case of looting or mindwipe a TC engineer with zondcat is a fairly good choice for destroying the AC2/server. A C+ dude with a LFT will make a mess of someone's support lines, this is especially true for the combat tomcats with mines, dep. rep.s or panzerfaust, and are cheap enough that you don't care about making them do a suicide run.
Hmmmmmm. Okay, that sounds interesting. If only the TC miniatures looked a little... better. The only one that appears to me is the TC Doctor - the other two have really weird poses... I know, I'm kind of aesthetics-obsessed. I guess keeping only the TC Doc (with Zondcat) and selling the rest of them would be a bit silly?
The tomcat box is an odd one, the doc and Zondcat are modern CAD sculpts that were later repackaged with the older, N2 hand sculpted Engineer and DEP minis.
I will repeat I like the sculpts, but because I like th e idea of small-framed Belters Spacepeople that need to squeeze through tight spaces to save a life or access a malfunctioning wiring. Only Carlotta can enter in the DZ, btw. But as it was mentioned, they work when you push your stuff up-flank. And in missions where the console is 8in from the edge, they are super useful and able to get in from a table edge, so super reliable. Cheap enough for an attack run as well... might not be a Mimetism super gunfighter but he can totally get somebody´s backs and shoot them down. The trick is being able to "eye-measure" 8in so you can enter right outside the ZoC in the rear arc of somebody, then move in with the Combi or the Flamethrower. I would love to have Breakers or something even nicer on them... even a shotgun.
I probably should have been a bit more clear when I said; I meant when compared to a daktari or any of the myriad of engineers we have, the Tomcat does not need to approach from the Nomad DZ and in doing so be to approach through less well defended areas to reach it's target.
I was not referring to your CJC knowledge or experience (you obviously have it), just making a general comment to guide other people reading the thread, that Carlotta is the only one that can deploy in the enemy DZ borders, the regular Tomcats cannot. My favorite profile is the Doctor, for a couple reasons: - Typically the opponent hides the HVT in some place he believes it is safe, and if I get the Inoculation classified it is trivially to do it with the tomcat (due to C+ and the ability to pop in odd places); - Medikit on a downed McM? Hell yeah. - Oh it is a Doctor? WIth a combi on my flank? I don´t care... wait, it has a flamethrower? So it feels a couple interesting roles. I don´t tend to push agreesive STR pieces up the flank as much (for some reason my Geckos end up well in the middle where shorter range weaponry have more targets).
All good I reread my initial comment after reading yours and realised it wasn't exactly clear, and figured I should correct it. BBQ'd kamau is the best kind of kamau.
