The most common shortcoming I see with ambush camo is that it's easy to ignore. When I play against most TAK players, I'm rarely punished for simply ignoring their Ambush Camo. For example: A Spetsnaz has Ambush Camo? Alright, the Spetsnaz is either hiding safe in total cover, or it's standing out in the open. Since I'm not really afraid of the Spetsnaz as an ARO piece, I'm not bothered either way. Safe to ignore. Even outside the DZ, the story is similar: you have a Strelok, and that Strelok's not very dangerous as long as you stay outside 8 inches of it. If you maintain distance from possible Chain Colt / Shotgun / Mine trigger range, and as long as you don't give a possible Strelok an unopposed shot by blundering into LoF with a 2nd Short Skill, you're probably okay. Maybe Flash Pulse? I haven't seen players risk a Flash Pulse ARO that often. So what do players do to actually punish this philosophy? For projecting threats from the DZ, the Tank Hunter seems obvious (either the missile or the autocannon.) I can see Vassili doing that too (that Akrylat Kannon's not bad here) but risking a unit that's almost 40 points for this kind of role seems risky. Even a heavy weapon Tankhunter, at 29+ points, feels like a massive liability. It's especially difficult since it competes with some very strong units that give strength to the active turn (Dogface) or simply a pile of Streloks and Irmandinhos. Outside the DZ, I can see the Scout doing okay with this... The Ojotnik is alright, though not brilliant, as an ARO piece. Once again though, it feels dangerous, because the Scout isn't a cheap unit. What else do players use? Or do they simply let Ambush Camo play a non-roll? I'm thinking specifically about TAK, but would welcome broader opinions too.