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Altered Carbon series incoming

Discussion in 'Off-Topic English' started by Stiopa, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. chromedog

    chromedog Less than significant minion

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    Reveals a major spoiler for book 3, which is an obvious thing upon re-reading, but it's not that obvious the first time.
    You could maybe stretch woken furies across two seasons if you do each season from the POV of each Kovacs, since there are 2 of them. The older, more experienced one, with the memories since getting out of the corps and the one sleeved up by the antagonists
     
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  2. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    I think the biggest reason for most of the re-writes was to reduce the total character count. It's not bad, there are a *crapton* of characters in Altered Carbon the book.

    I was a bit concerned about how those character-consolidations (not to mention the other major changes) were going to affect the other two stories, but I can see how it could be worked out.


    Yeah, that'd work. Might be a bit complex, since most of the written story is from one POV with the other only showing up as a really really scary boogieman.
     
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  3. Kahlain

    Kahlain Greeble-Faust investigator

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    Very cool. Greatly enjoyed both the shows and the books.

    Am finding more and more I like about the reworks as I reread.

    Though I am a long time Hendrix fan, I find I am automatically substituting Poe as I re-read the first book. And the recombinations also tightened up some of the themes, made them more overt.

    Combining Sarah and QF brought the whole Radical Liberterian / Anti-Authoritarian element out, front and center. The show making Laurens out to be even more overtly a douche bag, did the same. As did making his Taks sister a deranged, Meth murderer...
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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  5. chromedog

    chromedog Less than significant minion

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    No great surprise there. Kovacs is wearing a different sleeve in the 2nd book.
    The sleeve is a plot element, no so much a character in and of itself.
     
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  6. Section9

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    Agreed, though I hope that Will Yun Lee (the 'original sleeve' actor from Season 1) stays on. Hell, the point of the entire book trilogy is that it's just a sleeve, something that you wear like a shirt and move on!

    Now that I think about it, I really hope that the big biker dude gets another role in this. Going from an obnoxious biker to a drunk grandmother was awesome (and the dude nailed it).
     
  7. chromedog

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    Unless it's also set on earth, that's unlikely.
    If it even remotely follows the books, then another shithole planet is the new location setting.
    Kovacs' pardon left him free to return to Harlan's world (who don't want him back) and it was made pretty clear that Earth didn't want him to stay there, either.
     
  8. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Book 2: Kovacs in a war playing for himself, with some tense "kinda like a submarine engagement" moments (all against the unknown)
    Book 3: Kovacs in Harland's World, timeskip of her happy family, in a revenge plot, introducing Quellism a lot...

    I vote for something that was not in the books.
     
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    Yeah, I made a lot of my theater friends watch that. Ended up looking the actor up because I want to see him in other things. Dude was amazing.
     
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  10. Section9

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    Doesn't have to be the same 'person', just the same actor. Remember, they had Will Yun Lee on Earth as an example of Harlan's World genestock.
     
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    Season 2 starts second quarter 2020. Post production is ongoing at this point, but primary filming wrapped a while ago.

    The main story points mesh with the second book. The merc company, etc. They've also brought Trepp into the story (her role in s1 was wrapped into the Rei character arc - in the same way Quell replaced Virginia Vidaura (who was just another one of the Envoys).)

    Although Quell is also back, so is Poe (in some aspect). Will Yun Lee is back, but his current sleeve role was recast (besides, he's (the S1 sleeve) is back on earth, getting jiggy with Ortega).
     
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  12. Section9

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    I really wish they could get that big biker dude back for something. He *really* sold the idea that "there's someone completely different in that body"
     
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    leigen_zero Morat Pacifist

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    Ah the massive tattooed guy with the cops grandma in it, thought that was one of the best moment from S1, especially where she starts asking Ortega if she's got any drugs
     
  14. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Yup.

    That whole scene where this huge dude is acting like a tiny little abuela was hilarious! :laughing::laughing::laughing:
     
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    Yup, my immediate thought was hoping he gets cast in another role switch like that.
     
  16. FireFangs

    FireFangs Space Oni

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    I rewatched that scene yesterday. Excellent work and one of the best scene! And saddest at the end.

    Is it weird I want him as my grandma?
     
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    My grandma was a bitter and twisted old woman.
    I'm kinda glad we're in the "only one life then pffft" you're gone universe. I don't think I could handle a world where she *could* come back.
     
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    Yeah, Cubes/Stacks/whatever are rather scary tech, Altered Carbon doesn't really get into just how scary they are/should be. IMO.
     
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  19. chromedog

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    Society has to grow up pretty quickly when that tech happens. It's a game changer.
    Especially religion will have to find ways of either dealing with it (accepting it as part of the design, or closing off more completely and ignoring it). Several religions in the books touch on this. Kovacs has a beef about it with one of those groups.
     
  20. Mob of Blondes

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    It also means people will run into the long term consequences of their acts. Or choose final death.

    Dunno about Kovacs (only first book so far... local publisher is more like reprinter of past things, and lazy for anything else... sad compared to how it was 20 years ago)... the author sure is the one with a beef, he mentioned reincarnation concept as inspiration, and not in nice way.
     
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