Well, it's compared to Generic or QK. Granted, we are talking about 3-4 less models in extreme cases, but the effective ones tend to be pricier. Also, the "really sweet profiles" in Bahram are around 20-30 and/or with 1+ CAP... Let's say the opportunit cost in HB is higher than on the other factions... I just checked the cheapest way to make as many orders/models as possible with HB: Spoiler: Tarpitlist Hassassin Bahram ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 4 6 4 MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8) DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) GROUP 2 10 GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) BARID Hacker (Hacking Device) Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BARID (Forward Observer) Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) GOVAD Rifle + Light Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) GROUP 3 3 1 GOVAD Rifle + Light Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) GOVAD Rifle + Light Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) GOVAD Rifle + Light Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 1.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army Not sorted, nor looking for something useful, just the cheaper orders... 17 regular orders, 7 irregular orders and 4 extremely impetuous orders, 299 points and 1.5 SWC (yes, you can use a Barid hacker Lt, it only adds +0.5 SWC). QK just by having AVA: Total to Ghulam goes to 22 Regular orders, 6 irregular orders, and 3 Extremely Impetuous orders. Having AVA 3 on the 8 pts flash pulse remotes also helps, not to mention those four 10 points Alguaciles. Then Generic has AVA Total in Daylami (irregular 5 pts), ghulam, 10pts Khum, 2x Krakot Renegades (14 pts), etc etc