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A Primer on Massed Armour Tactics?

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by andre61, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    I was reading some of the A Primer on Massed Armour Tactics, And I was wondering if any body had some success with it? I was thinking of trying it with my NCA units.
     
  2. yoink101

    yoink101 Well-Known Member

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    NCA can do limited insertion heavy infantry really well because the swiss guard is probably the best HI in the game. I don't love playing limited insertion lists against lists with 15+ orders, but NCA does is particularly well. A fusilier core is hard to break if you deploy them carefully and don't over expose them. It's also good for hiding your LT. Add a doctor and an engineer and you're left with enough room to field an Aquila HMG, Swiss HMG, and Swiss AHD. The three HI workhorses can tackle just about anything. It does suffer from the same thing that most LI lists do: as soon as you start losing key pieces, things can fall apart quickly.

    Use the camo state and covering fire from fusiliers to protect your heavy assets.
     
  3. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    well, I mean, I wrote it, so yeah Ive had a lot of success with the ideas I talk about in there ;)

    Took me to my first top table showing at a tournament (in what was I think my second ever tournie)
     
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  4. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry! I knew you had success with it, I wanted to know if others did, and how would it work with NCA?
     
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  5. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    Yes I had success with it multiple time in NCA, ASA, MO and Generalist. Not tried it yet in VIRD though.
     
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    BarbeChenue Well-Known Member

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    A list like this?

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    [​IMG] Limited Insertion Swissx2+Aquilla
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] AQUILA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 62)
    [​IMG] SWISS GUARD Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 70)
    [​IMG] SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)

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    Swiss AHD is vulnerable to KHD, even with Fairy Dust up, so he/she relies on marker state. The list has tthree HMG, which may be a bit much...
     
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  7. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking using this list at some point

    Heavy Armoured Specialist Operative Team # 1
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    [​IMG]10
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    FUSILIER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    AQUILA MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 58)
    SWISS GUARD Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 69)
    SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    And or this one

    Heavy Armoured Specialist Operative Team # 2
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    [​IMG]10
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    FUSILIER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    UHLAN HMG, Feuerbach / . (2 | 99)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27)
    TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  8. yoink101

    yoink101 Well-Known Member

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    Like that. There are risks, but limited insertion forces you to make tough choices and accept risks. A marker state is incredibly powerful, especially in limited insertion when players are less likely to bring sensor. I actually prefer assault hackers to killer hackers in limited insertion because I find some many lists with tags and heavy infantry core teams.

    I see nothing wrong with 3 hmgs. They are really good. Burst 4-5 sins gunfights. Damage 15 kills things.

    If you don’t like hmgs and want something different, both lists below are good. I don’t like bringing an Aquila guard with a multi rifle though. He just feels over priced and inefficient.

     
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