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Discussion in 'Spiral Corps' started by Káosz Brigodéros, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    Mates,
    I am facing a battle and I came up with the following list:
    Classifieds
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    BRAWLER Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    NEEMA Lieutenant (Advanced Command) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Viral Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 48)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    KUMOTAIL Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    HATAIL AELIS KEESAN K1 Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    KRIIGEL Breaker Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    CLIPSOS (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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    The mission is button pushing, but specialists are penalized, hence I tried to keep it low.
    Brawlers Haris for long-ranged combat and escorting the specialist to the button to push in relative safety.
    Chaksa Haris to cover firelanes and long-ranged combat.
    Neema & Co to do the heavy lifting.
    Keeesan to push button and general messing around.
    Kriigel Haris to lay down Mirrorball (for MSV2 shenangians) and smoke (for the rest of the lot) and to do some additional close-range gunfighting including DZ guarding.
    Clipsos for late-game button pushing.
    Warcor to record all the heroic deeds and dirty tricks for obvious reasons.
    I consider the ability to accomplish the classified as number one priority. (The mssion is a piece of sh1t and chances are high the only one classified would be the decisive factor.) Consequently having one of a kind of specialists is non-negotiable.
    What do you think? Glaring holes? Inappropriate unit choices? Missing ingerdients? Subpar choices? (Safe for playing Spiral Corps in the first place?)
    PS Any advice is more than ever as always.
     
  2. DustGod

    DustGod Well-Known Member

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    If you could Shave 2pts..drop the warcor you could fit in a diplomat giving you a Nanopulser Specialist...
    Lil' pts button pusher never hurt
     
  3. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    Good point, but I have very good reason not to do the swap.
    First and foremost the mission penalize taking squishy specialists, because who kills more specialists than the opponent gets VPs. Taking the diplomat would qualify asking for trouble.
    Moreover this is a campaign and I wanna be adored!
     
  4. DustGod

    DustGod Well-Known Member

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    Is this for Paradiso?
     
  5. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    First game in the books. It was a loss but I was close to turn the game in my favour in the last round. Good game.
    Neema with TriCore is a beast.
    The army could have used more smoke. The Kriigel Reex fireteam is solid. Misplayed the Taagma-Chaksa team. Brawler triad was not bad.
    Looooooove Spiral Corps!!! Shiny toys, fun to play.
     
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  6. iconoclast674

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    What are you hiding your Taagmas as?
     
  7. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    One of them was a Chaksa Auxiliar that easily hide in the Triad.
    For the other (with Neema and Kumotail) I have not yet found a good solution. I used Draal because the mini looked awesome, but a smart opponent would figure out rather quickly why the Stratuscloud is inactive.
    I think a Kosuil Engineer would be a good hiding profile.
     
  8. Aemaru

    Aemaru Well-Known Member
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    I like your list... well balanced
     
  9. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    if you hide your taagma as something that is not on your list (and same group) you opponent will get it with the courtesy list
    putting two neema could help her to survive assassins
    or as a kriigel because jamming makes everyone making errors ?
     
  10. daszul

    daszul Well-Known Member

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    Just some minor changes:
    Now the Brawlers have the 5-man bonus, and have their own 5 orders to advance.
    CG1 is 3 Triads plus the Clipsos,
    but now with CoC if Neema gets unlucky,
    and a 'Mate to prevent just that.
    The second 'Mate is wasted, though, but that might toggle some mind games for the opponent...
    And there is still one specialist of every kind around.

    Classifieds
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    NEEMA Lieutenant (Advanced Command) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Viral Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 48)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    KUMOTAIL Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    KRIIGEL Breaker Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    KAELTAR (Chain of Command) Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioMates / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 21)
    CLIPSOS (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    BRAWLER Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BRAWLER Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    TAAGMA Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    TAAGMA (Multispectral Visor L2) Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  11. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    Advance to do what? They have no active turn shooting weapons and a WIP12 specialist who starts in your DZ. Scoot over the Clipsos so there's something to spend orders on and it works much better, since the Clipsos no longer competes with either of the triads in group 1.

    You could find a couple points to bring the Kumotail up to a Shotgun Kosuil if you want to take advantage of a second mate.
     
  12. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    Mates,
    I would like to thank you for the input, it is well appreciated. Now I am building another list, and I have a problem spending the last 19 points.
    Here is the list:
    Classifieds
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    BRAWLER Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    TAAGMA (White Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor, Fireteam: Special Triad) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10)
    NEEMA Lieutenant (Advanced Command) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Viral Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 48)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    KUMOTAIL Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]3
    JÄGER Submachine Gun + E/Mitter / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18)
    KRIIGEL Breaker Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    CLIPSOS (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    DIPLOMATIC DELEGATE (iKohl L1, Specialist Operative) Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    6 SWC | 286 Points
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    As you can see I reshuffled the list above significantly.
    I kept the the Brawler fireteam but replaced the doc with an ass-hacker to spare points. Having the HRL guy and a specialist is non-negotiable, but replacing the hacker with a doc if points permit is more than desirable.
    I sacked the sniper for a hacker because I needed SWC to include the Jaeger. The Jaeger is non-negotiable, though I will sorely miss the MSV2...
    Neema & Co. is a must have. Pure awesomeness.
    G1 needs a regular trooper for 19 points stock. Ideas are more than welcome.
    G2 contains a Jaeger. Guy is non-negotiable.
    Kriigel triad proved to be more than awesome. Never leave home without them.
    Clipsos and Warcors are non-negotiable.
    The Diplomatic Delegate looks fine to push a button and die in the process. Bye, bye, beautiful, you will not be missed. Replacing her with another button-pusher would be fine, I considered a Monstrucer but 9 points are not enough to get G1 to full ordercount.
    How would you, mates spend the 19 points?
    Ideas are more than welcome!
    Thank you, mates, in advance!
     
  13. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    I did a LOT of reshuffling, and came up with the following list:
    Iteration II
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    DRAAL (Minelayer) AP Marksman Rifle, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1 | 40)
    KAELTAR Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioBombs / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    TAAGMA Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    NEEMA Lieutenant (Advanced Command) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Viral Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 48)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    KUMOTAIL Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    KRIIGEL Breaker Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    JÄGER Submachine Gun + E/Mitter / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]5
    CLIPSOS (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    KAAURI Sentinel Submachine Gun, 2 Nanopulsers, Nullifier / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 12)
    DIPLOMATIC DELEGATE (iKohl L1, Specialist Operative) Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)
    6 SWC | 305 Points
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    What do you think?
     
  14. daszul

    daszul Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, Helots are a great roadblock.
    Was thinking about that for the list before this one.
    And I still don't understand why you like(d) the HRL better than the MSV2 Sniper - you already got smoke, it has a better range band, reaches further, and is so much better vs camo/odd/mimitism.

    Dropping one Helot to stay below 300 points, but upgrading the Taagma to a specialist again:
    Iteration II
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    DRAAL (Minelayer) AP Marksman Rifle, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1 | 40)
    TAAGMA (White Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
    KAELTAR Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioBombs / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    NEEMA Lieutenant (Advanced Command) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Viral Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 48)
    TAAGMA (Tri-Core) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    KUMOTAIL Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    KRIIGEL Breaker Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    REEX Boarding Shotgun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    JÄGER Submachine Gun + E/Mitter / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]4
    CLIPSOS (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    KAAURI Sentinel Submachine Gun, 2 Nanopulsers, Nullifier / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 12)
    DIPLOMATIC DELEGATE (iKohl L1, Specialist Operative) Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    Something else/new to consider would be Impersonators/offensive Hidden Deployment - it is one thing to have all kinds of specialists available,
    but what about killing your opponents specialists before they can do their job?
     
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  15. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    Thank you for the feed-back, It's well appreciated!
    HRL is just jolly good against cramped-up enemies (including fireteams). In the last (and so far only) game I played with SC, a well-placed HRL shot almost turned my defeat into a victory. (If the guy hits with the HRL, I would have caught all 5 Wu Ming fireteam members under the template, because they were stationed on a rooftop that did not provide enough space to loosen the line sufficiently.) Besides It's cheap like Hell.
    I am allowed to bring 305 points. It's a camapign.
    Killing enemy specialists is a good idea but the secound mission do not penalize specialists but involves a lot of button pushing. I am pretty sure my opponent will bring tons of specialists. (On a totally irrelevant sidenote the Jaeger is not bad at killing squishy specialists.)