Give them NWI+SI and no-Mimmetism. Cost them appropriately for that. They now have a reason for existing other than just "add gun to Grunt link"....
* ladder, not wall. Well damn. Apparently I flubbed the rules at least once or twice in N3. To me doing that made sense as the way to manage...
Yes. I can't swear I've played it consistently like that. But I know that's how I intuitively wanted to measure it. I have a distinct memory of...
Then surely your SIL should be placed on that surface as much as possible?
Only for Climb where it gets the free movement. I've been poking my nose over the edge of the wall for all (most?) of last edition.
To me they are intuitively the same concept. In every other case you can move infinitely divisible amounts along the direction of travel, the...
They're already different distances. This emphasises the fact that they're different. You're describing a SIL that Moves in the same way as one...
You're not consistently measuring from the same point on the SIL though. The final result is the same but the intermediate placement is different....
Actually no: @ijw What you're saying is that for a model that is on a ladder to pop onto and off a roof (to end up back where it started) it...
It IS the only way to complete the path and have half the base supported and measure from the same point on the SIL. What you're suggesting...
What about if they only needed to be halfway in the ground? You're allowed to be halfway into terrain when it's the only way to complete the path.
You missed my edit in my earlier post. On thinking this through: I think you transition when half your base is unsupported. [IMG] So this is the...
Huh? I have no idea what you're on about. Edit: Oh, I get it now. Because it wasn't necessary to explain what I was getting at. But yes, the SIL...
This is the diagram of ladders in the rules:[IMG] It makes sense to me that a SIL would transition like this at the top of the ladder (following...
C+ models only treat vertical surfaces "as if performing a normal Movement on a horizontal surface". So that's a lot narrower than what Ladders...
Ok then this is the position of the SIL when you start measuring down the wall or you're no longer measuring from the same point on the base....
Honestly, that's probably the only way to do it. The trouble is that I honestly don't think anyone knows what it should look like. People claim...
Ok. How far do I need to measure in that case? How is that "measuring from the same point on the base"?
Technically it's unnecessary, declaring the BS Attack cancels the Camo State. That clause is basically "even if you perform an Idle there is no...
The whole "prevent declaration" thing basically goes out the way in group activations. In group activations they treat the declaration of a skill...