YUANDUN DIVISION: CBL FOR YU JING

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  1. Eldritch

    Eldritch Well-Known Member

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    Imma gonna "write off" that fluff about JSA splitting off entirely so I can field... no wait the army Ap isn't agreeing here... Army ap I'm writing off that fluff that took away half the faction list. People keep telling me that just works. Army? Why isn't this working?

    Ignoring the fluff is only workable when fluff stays in it's god damn place. When it alternatively becomes so vile it cannot be ignored, or effects your actual game play experience by changing the rules and taking (many) models out of your army Ignoring it is no longer a viable option.

    The genocidal faction split was deliberately designed to be impossible to ignore.

    People should stop ignoring that when making excuses for it.
     
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  2. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Photographed some Yuandun lists because it's hard to visualise how they work just form the list. Some proxy is inevitable because either I haven't painted it yet or the model doesn't exist. Dusted off some retro models too.

    LIST A
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    LIST B
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    LIST C
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    LIST D

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    LIST E
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  3. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Nice paintjobs! (Is the Asian lady visible in the background of List B doing a facepalm reading the unit fluff? XP )

    Like I said, I like the lists themselves, they're interesting.

    It's too bad the unit fluff makes me want to puke.
     
  4. Fyeya

    Fyeya Yakitori over a light flamethrower

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    I kind of like the idea of killing this list on the table - and it would be fun to run it and get them annihilated playing way too aggressive and cocky.

    But yes, when we asked for CBLs, we were hoping for IA, not uber-ISS
     
  5. Nathonicus

    Nathonicus Well-Known Member

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    Gorgeous armies, The Huanglong!

    I just started building my Guija yesterday. Excited to be able to run a TAG in ISS. I like 10-order lists, as sometimes my mental confusion is my own greatest foe, so keeping it to 10 usually helps me out. Overall these lists look fun to experiment with to me, and as ISS is a new faction to me, it's actually kind of ideal to get a bunch of sample lists, even if they're not standard ISS.

    I don't mind playing the bad guys with my tiny mans. I mean, I've already accepted that this faction has invisible off-world prisons where they disappear people, and they turn political prisoners into brain-washed human bombs. I'm not surprised that they're coming in as the bad guys in this split!
     
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  6. YueFei23

    YueFei23 Durian Inspector

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    Woooow, so close on having all the minis. The only proxy I spotted was the obvious rabbit ears pangguling standing in for the minesweeper. Impressive how much of it you could cover including spitfire celestial, zuyong duo etc!
     
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  7. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    I thought I put in a valiant effort, but I never made it to patrician tier full paint WYSIWYG on any of the lists.

    In List A:
    DACCW Crane instead of AHD Crane (No official model)
    BCR Zhanying instead of HMG Zhanying (No official model)

    in List B:
    KHD Kanren instead of BSG Kanren (I only have one BSG Kanren and the list has two)
    CR+LSG Celestial Guard instead of BSG Celestial Guard (I only have one one BSG Celestial Guard and the list has two)

    In List C:
    CR+LSG Celestial Guard instead of BSG Celestial Guard (I only have one one BSG Celestial Guard and the list has two)
    MR Zuyong instead of CR Zuyong (No official model)

    In List D:
    DACCW Crane instead of AHD Crane (No official model)
    BSG Wu Ming instead of CR & SMG Wu Ming (I only have one CR & SMG Wu Ming and the list has two)
    EVO Yaopu instead of FP & HP Yaopu (No official mode, unarmed Yaopu currently being painted as I never had a reason to use it when we still had Keisotsu Butai)

    In List E:
    CR+LSG Bao instead of SMR Bao (No official model)
    KHD Kanren instead of BSG Kanren (I only have one BSG Kanren and the list has two)

    Thanks, in the TV she she grew up with the Japanese fight with the competency and K:DR of LotR Orcs in between committing vicious and cruel warcrimes against men, women, children and the elderly in exploitative detail, so I don't think she would really shed a tear if some fictional ones got gassed by her team.
     
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  8. atomicfryingpan

    atomicfryingpan Well-Known Member

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    Those are awesome looking
     
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  9. Stormygeddon

    Stormygeddon Well-Known Member

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    For some reason List C doesn't show up for me. You should post a review of the lists on your blog.
     
  10. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    That's strange although expected, I had a lot of trouble uploading that image in particular and had to do it differently. Plus uploading is really pants right now. And you're right, I should put this (or anything) on my blog. I'll try for a post about Zhanying over the weekend.

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  11. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Or then again, maybe not.

    upload_2018-4-27_9-53-51.png
     
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  12. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Why is that in quotes?
     
  13. Shiwen

    Shiwen Commissar, Yu Jing Political Work Department

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    "pacify them"? That keeps bugging me too... if our genocidal Yuandun commander actually believes all those types of people are a threat and need to be pacified through killing, he'd just say it, without quotations, right?
     
  14. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Yes.
     
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  15. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    I assume he's talking to a foreign warcor
     
  16. SKOZZOKONZ

    SKOZZOKONZ Well-Known Member

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    I wish I could have a fun in joke with my friends about genocide
     
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  17. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member

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    I keep picturing psychoCrane Commander in an interview, and every time he uses a phrase like "pacify them" or "see that they're taken care of" he makes literal air quotes and then winks knowingly at the Warcor. Meanwhile, on PanO TV half a galaxy away, his subtitles are just directly translated to "murder them" and "put them in a government-funded black site where they're turned in to zombie bombs for the glory of the Emperor!"

    Then I laugh a little, curl up in to a ball, try not to cry, and cry a lot...
     
  18. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much.
     
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  19. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Because that's the way to transmit that the quote means the exact opposite, and is not possible to ignore or misinterpret.

    Since writing "jurl jurl jurl" or "wink wink" would be of poor(er) taste.
     
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  20. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    I'd like to add some inconsistencies to the CBL:

    List A (5.5 SWC): Celestial Guard with Multi Sniper Rifle listed as 0.5SWC (instead of 1.5)

    List B (6 SWC): Zhanying Missile Launcher listed as 1 SWC (instead of 1.5)
    There are inconsistencies on AVA: Kanren are listed as AVA 1, Dakini as AVA 6, Sophotecs as AVA2, Hacker Celestial Guard as AVA total, other Celestial Guards as AVA 2...

    List C (6 SWC): Pheasant Agent Red Fury as 0.5SWC (instead of 1)

    List D (5 SWC): Funny, this one is OK, and the Haris Red Fury Pheasant Agent costs 1.5 SWC (which is totally correct).

    List E (6 SWC): More funny, the Haris Red Fury Pheasant Rank agent costs 1 SWC (instead of 1.5 SWC) here...
    Even more funny, the Misile Launcher Zhanying here costs 1.5 SWC (correct cost)
    Bao with shock Marksmanship Precision Rifle (and MSV2 and Biometric Visor 2) costs 25 points... making this setup 2 points more expensive than the BSG (with same visors), meaning it's 1 point more expensive than a Combi Rifle...

    So: A List is 6.5SWC, B list is 6.5SWC, list C is 6.5SWC, list C is correctly prized at 5 SWC, and list E is 6.5 SWC.

    EDIT: and there are SWC cost inconsistency between the lists.
     
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