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Civilian Mercenary within SoF extra

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by eciu, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Soooo

    There is a Civilian Mercenary. Crappy stats, costs 0 pts and generates irregular order. What is hilarious is that (in contrary to Techbee) it's is not a "civilian" as far as the rules goes and it has no "civie" or "civilian" skill/tag/clasification (again as example Techbee has a profile with "Civie" Tag/rule).

    Is it theterfore legal to include "Civilian" Mercenrary in ITS list under the SoF extra ?

    Army VI says list is legal btw. (again in contrary to "Civie" Techbee).
     
  2. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    No, because it's actual points cost is '-' not zero, and it's not a mercenary. This needs to be reported as a bug in Army.
     
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    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Well my Army VI disagrees with you, the cost in an actual 0:

    [​IMG] Military Orders
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────
    [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] CIVILIAN . (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    1 SWC | 10 Points
    Open in Infinity Army
     
  4. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Oh and it is a mercenary:
    upload_2018-1-24_12-31-42.png
     
  5. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Now look at the profiles PDF. Again, this is a bug in army, please report it in the appropriate forum.
     
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    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Good, does it mean that I can bring Kamau LGL X-Visor to torunament ?
     
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    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    civilian-profile.jpg
     
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    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Again, can I bring Kamau X-Visor LGL to ITS tournament ?
    upload_2018-1-24_12-40-21.png
     
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    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Stop taking the piss. You're fully aware that Civilians aren't part of an army, and that this is a bug in Army.
     
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    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Srsly I "felt" that something must be wrong, but actually I couldn't find a rule/reason why it is not allowed to be done.

    If you hadn't noticed I don't disagree on the ruling that Civilina cannot be taken,

    Now I'm poiting out that there's a friking mess with what is allowed and what not.

    Profiles PDF states "something" and Army VI states "something".

    How can I know that on "civilian" issue it is Profiles PDF which is right (not ARMY VI), and on "Kamau issue" neither of them is right (Profile PDF has "old" Kamau entry, and ARMY VI still has since more than half of the year error in old X-Visor LGL/ new Submachine Gun, HRL entry).

    So going back to 2nd point in this thread: how can I know which tool is "righter" in which situation ?
     
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    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    In this case, because I told you, and because it directly contradicts the rules.

    Have you reported it yet?
     
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    Official stance is that PDF > Army, the same way FAQ > HSN3 > N3 > Wiki

    It was already discussed a lot when the Druze Bayran came to be, since QK's Druze got several changes on the army and it was a mess (they lost all linkability in QK but remained Duo on generic, then recover some, then...).
     
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    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Problem was that that "civilian" was a "civilian" only in name not in rules, unless you want tot say that Lieutenant Rao must always be Lieutenant because it has this "keyword" in his name ;D
     
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