For the people who don't want to go comb all the profiles one by one to hunt for what changes I am going to list them all here. Note that I will in general not include a price change or 2 or less as almost all more expensive units got that. Also this list is made from the perspective of the Oban sectorial. LI Aragoto Senkenbutai - Gained Limited Cover, lost ability to dismount. Keisotsu - +1BS, gained AP Rifle profile, gained (BS Attack [-3]) Thunderbolt profile, Hacker profile gained Crazykoala and ECM: Hacker [-6]. Kempeitai - Boarding Shotgun profile -3 points. Kuroshi Rider - Gained Limited Cover, lost ability to dismount, counts as Aragoto for fireteams. Tokusetsu Butai - +1BS, gained Engineer profile with Deployable Cover, gained Engineer profile with Armed Turret (Combi R.). Taguraida, JSA TAG Support Pilots - New Profile. MI Freelane Operator Samsa - Gained Decoy (1), Gained Surprise Attack (-3), -4 points. Genbutai - +1BS, both Boarding Shotgun profiles gained Chain-colt and -6 points. Ryûken Unit-9 - +1WP, gained Decoy (1), changed to MI. Sôhei Tsugekitai - Removed from Oban. HI Domaru Butai - Lost +3 from Berserk, all Chain Rifle profiles gained Contender, Boarding Shotgun profile -5 points, LT profile with Chain Rifle gain +1 Lt Order. Domaru Takeshi 'Neko' Oyama - Lost +3 from Berserk, gained Contender. Karakuri Special Project - Heavy Shotgun profile -10 points, MULTI Rifle and Mk12 profiles -7 points, Combi Rifle profile replaced with E/Mitter profile. Shikami - +1BS, Superjump gained (8"), All profiles gained Eclipse Granades, Flash Pulse profile gain +1B and -3 points, Combi Rifle profile changed to MULTI Rifle. Tankô Zensenbutai - Gained Limited Cover, gained new Blizen/LSG profile with Disco Baller and Deactivator, count as Domaru for Domaru fireteams. TAG O-Yoroi Kidobutai - -1PH, removed Dodge (PH=11), AP HMG changed to MULTI HMG, lost ability to dismount, gained synced helperbot, +3 points Mechazoid Sôkôrentai - Gained Climbing Plus, gained Stealth, gained Combat Instinct, AP HMG profile +4 points, AP Spitfire profile changed to MULTI Spitfire and +9 points, lost ability to dismount, gained synced helperbot, no longer available in Oban. REM Several of these are new, listing changes compered to what the equivalent Yu Jing rems used to have. Atom Aibôt - Gained profile with Combi Rifle (PS=6) and Flash Pulse (+1B) but no Sensor. Garon Aibôt - Gained profile with Mk12, gained profile with Thunderbolt + Smoke Grenade Launcher. Yáoxié Lû Duân - +1 ARM, +1 AVA, gained BS Attack (+1B), lost Holomask, lost Minelayer, lost Deployable Repeater, gained EM/Mines, gained Thunderbolt profile. Yáoxié Rui Shi - +1 ARM, +1 AVA, Red Fury profile gained Mine Dispenser(Shock) can join Aragoto Fireteams. SK Ninjas - Gained Climbing Plus, Tactical Bow profiles gained Shock Mine and -3 points for normal/ -4 for KHD, SMG + AP CCW removed, all other AP CCW changed to DA CCW, SMG profile -4 points, Multi Sniper profile -6 points, Forward Observer profile changed form Combi Rifle to Boarding Shotgun and -5 points. Oniwaban - Both Boarding Shotgun profiles gain Nanopulser and -8 points, SMG profile -5 points Saito Togan - Gained Bangbomb (+4), changed for Combi Rifle to T2 Boarding Shotgun and -3 points WB Miyamoto Mushashi - Lost Immunity (Shock), gained Immunity (ARM), gained Tactical Bow. Yojimbo, Motorized Sword for Hire - Gained Limited Cover, lost ability to dismount. Yojimbo, Sword for Hire - New profile, 6-2 MOV, No Cover Yuan Yuan - New Profile
The general inability for motorcycles to choose to not be impetuous impacts the biker gang style lists. The Aragoto KHD will miss being able to Cybermask.
From changes in Fireteams: - Tanko counts as Domaru in Domaru Fireteam - Musashi counts as Tanko in Banzai Fireteam - Riu Shi can join Aragoto Fireteam
I like these changes a lot. The core of Oban really shine through now, maybe a bit too much compared to the new stuff (apart from the Hatamoto).
I'm surprised there aren't more posts about the new profiles we have in our new sectorial. I haven't had time to get in any games, but has anyone had a chance to try the new sectorial? What works? I will run Oban for a little while to get used to the new ruleset but am curious about any experiences there as well. I'm looking forward to trying out the new Shikami, with it's new skills and weapons. With Superjump (8"), we can super-jump rather than walk, and so if the opponent in bunkered down, we can be only 4" off their deployment zone in one order (+4" deployment, 2 x 8" Super Jump). At that point we can take advantage of the BS13 B4 Assault Pistol and Mim -6 to start taking out light units, and follow up on heavier units with CC. Eclipse Grenades will be handy for getting in to CC or blocking LoF for tough ARO units. Any other ideas for Oban or the new Shindenbutai?
One other thought - we can make Domaru/Tanko link teams now (and would be considered pure), but the Tanko has Impetuous which would knock them out of the link team on the very first activation. Is it worth spending an extra order per Tanko to keep them in the team? Other than the ML, I can't think of any unit that would be beneficial enough to outweigh the loss of orders to keep them in the link.
I think I'm going to be running vJSA, Oban, and Ikari at first. It's cool I can do a lot of different Daiyokai haris in all three. This my first generic vJSA list. Generic ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 2 ARAGOTO Spitfire / Boarding Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 20) ARAGOTO (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Light Shotgun ( ) / Boarding Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 21) KYOJIN KILLER Heavy Flamethrower, Flammenspeer / Pistol, DA CC Weapon(PS=7). (0 | 15) DOMARU Chain Rifle, Contender, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon. (0 | 20) DOMARU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Flash Pulse / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon. (0 | 27) DAIYŌKAI Heavy Machine Gun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, AP + DA CC Weapon(PS=4). (1 | 50) RAIDEN Missile Launcher, Shock Mine / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 33) HATAMOTO (Lieutenant [+1 Order]) Plasma Carbine / Heavy Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, E/M CC Weapon(PS=4). (+1 | 36) NOKIZARU (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flash Pulse, Shock Mine, D-Charges / Silenced Pistol, Shock CC Weapon(PS=6). (0 | 25) KEMPEI (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 17) GROUP 2 3 KEISOTSU (BS Attack [-3]) Thunderbolt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) KEISOTSU (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Crazykoala ( | ECM: Hacker [-6]) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 16) PANGGULING (Deactivator, Repeater) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 8) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Has anyone tried the REF troops? Other than the Kyosho hackers, I see no use for the Genbutai or Sohei. Sohei are crying out for smoke. They would be great if they could actually get into CC. But at 16pts there's better troops. The Genbutai looks like a cool troop but can’t be added to any fireteams and is only AVA1 anyway.
I like the look of the Genbutai paramedic or Specialist, most paramedics are pretty lightweight, this one can stand up for himself and get where he needs to be. Specialist with Multi rifle and HFT is a solid combo of weapons. I would use them as a 2nd or 3rd turn unit to medkit a model or grab or defend an objective Religious and Warhorse make sure they don't back down for anything. The Sohei are an odd unit, since they're only available in the generic list. They're the only unit with Grenades which is cool, but in an army where almost every unit can fight well in CC, they don't really stand out. I would consider one a good speedbump or throw away unit to trade up.
I totally love the Sohei figures. But unfortunately there's better troops for going forward and stabbing and better for holding back for guard the DZ. Right away the Kyojin for forward and Garon Thunderbolt for DZ come to mind for nearly the same price. I suppose I could used them as proxies for the Kyojin. I'm not big on those models and have no need for a second Yamabushi.
