Daebak Force

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Chaserabinov, Jun 26, 2023.

  1. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Yes, hacker was in the main group


    Mowang has a red fury/multirifle, which to be fair prior to N4 when it was sculpted the Red Fury was the preferred option.


    This is actually really good for the Haetae, keeping the CC bloat down but getting a cheap but effective Para CCW makes him much more difficult for warbands to engage on as it brings most Martial Art opponents down to 20 or less and kills their crit chances. It's even more effective against the non MA NBW/Berserk types like Varangians.

    To put it in perspective he's pretty much on par with a Hsien vs a Monk but the Hsien pays for CC21, MA1, and an AP CCW.

    CC15 and an AP CCW like the Swisse is worthless. CC15 and a good Para CCW is actually somewhat problematic to engage.
     
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  2. Henshini

    Henshini Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they're complaining about the profile per se, but the model implies much more cc prowess. The profile is great, the model is cool, but they don't line up.
     
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  3. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I have no problem with the stats. It just looks odd. Also I don't think i've seen a sword as a Para CCW.
     
  4. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    I also hate it when CB does this straight away from the customers wishes and own loadout building. Its so clear that the HRL is the intresting profile here and they offer this. ARM 5, BS 14 HMG with TA - yes sure, not bad, but its a 41 pts RF unit that eats a lot of the 100 pts and no specials. The +1 B HRL with guided is much more likely to see tabeltime. If they do this to sell both loadouts, fine, they have to sell minis and it looks good, but as far as we know, we have to wait ages for the HRL and until then RF is only a milde afterthought in Infinity. No thx - cleary a no buy.

    Heroic pose that uses cc power ... sporting a BS 15 Para-CCW that looks like a big samurai sword? Sure everything is possible in the future.

    Greeting from the Swiss Guard :sweat_smile:
     
  5. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Wrong loadout, impractical pose and limp sword syndrome. Very unfortunate.
     
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  6. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    I quite like it, not sure I would field the HRL as the default preference.
     
  7. Daireann

    Daireann Well-Known Member

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    At least this unit have scabbard for a sword. This is a big step forward. :)
     
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  8. SpectralOwl

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    To be fair to the Swiss Guard, there is a new one in the reinforcements group with DA CCW, CC Attack+6 and MA1. It took several years and can only be done in the Reinforcements scenario, but he did learn to use that zweihander!
     
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  9. Chaserabinov

    Chaserabinov Well-Known Member

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    I am fully aware this is just a typo, but now I cant unsee this as a 360° visor bought on Wish :-P
     
  10. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    Only in RF and then you have a Swiss Guard with a very, very BIG SMG ... - if CB uses the opportunity to make a new mini - fine. Leaves the HMG one with the silly sword ... I cut it off and put a pistol hand on it - so much better!

    Now YJ has a cool looking big silly swordswinger in the sad tradition of Daofeis (both, new Spitfire and old, deleted loadout with HMG) which has at least CC 19 (and they look cool, thats for sure), the Shangs who also have Swords with CC19 (I leave them, only HRL is actualy holding his) and the Ye Mao hacker, why ever a mimitsm super jump hacker with visor has a to carry a 4 feet sword around (with SwissGuard CC 15). I also cut the sword here, but running out of pistols, so I had do cut down a medkit ;-)

    CB is obessed with swords, I hope this will go down, when they bring out Warcrow.
     
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  11. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Haetae outperforms Daofei in CC. The -6 MOD is stronger than +4 CC.
     
  12. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    I don´t doubt that, but that posing still not match its CC capability. Oh with -6 he negates the Swiss +6 which brings them back to 15 :smirk:
     
  13. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

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    Also, it shouldn't be a sword. It should be a fucking taser.
     
  14. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    At least the Assault pistol.

    He still looks cool to me. I hope I can move the arm down though. Like I said, it's a pain for storage.
     
  15. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    its an aesthetically pleasing cattle prod.
     
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  16. Fed4ykin

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    Pheasant Agents do have a sword as para CCW. But the sculpts are from way back when they had monofilament weapons. :D
     
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  17. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    They are surprisingly good in cc because of the para -6 too.
     
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  18. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    The thing I’m finding Daebak makes up for my ISS, is Anti-Material weapons. We have a tournament with Mindwipe coming up and ISS has very few weapons that can destroy the servers. Ninja AVA1, Crane expensive AF, Zhanying Hacker only D-Charges, Sophotech D-Charges AVA1. Now I can take a couple Hwarang and Sulsa to beat the hell out of the servers. It's super irritating YJ only gets a few D-charges. Usually it's only a few profiles, while others factions will get on every single are many profiles. For example Sulyong has D-Charges only on the FO. While the Kulak has it on 3 out of 6. Hawa 3 out of 4. But at least now I can make up for D-Charges now.
     
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  19. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Mike Pondsmith would be proud!

    @Triumph is right, PARA -6 or -9 weapons are great, and still underestimated by most players it seems.
     
  20. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    vs. a Pheasant it's -9 due to Para CCW and MA L1. But it doesn't help much when you get squished by a Chimera. I had two of them killed one right after another. Chimera have CC24, MA L2, NBW, Viral CCW.
     
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