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First tournament with dahshat

Discussion in 'Dahshat Company' started by Numazokola, Jan 2, 2022.

  1. Numazokola

    Numazokola Well-Known Member

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    I came up with this list for 2 reasons: I got almost all the necessary models and coming from IA, I want to try rui shi harís.

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    Missions are

    Suppremacy
    Decapitation
    Supplies
    Frostbite
    Power pack

    Please feel free to give me your thoughts.

    I was thinking for some Missions I might try to get a list around Maggie + mcmurrough
     
  2. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Well-Known Member

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    Alright. For ease of discussion, I have translated the list for forum view:

    Dahshat Company
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]3
    GHULAM (Lieutenant [+1 Command Token]) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM (Doctor [+3]) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15)
    GHULAM Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    VALERYA GROMOZ (Hacker) Combi Rifle, Zapper, Pitcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 21)
    LIBERTO (Mimetism [-3], Minelayer]) Light Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 9)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 23)
    ZÚYǑNG (Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / CC Weapon, Breaker Pistol(+1B). (0 | 31)
    ZÚYǑNG (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Machine Gun / CC Weapon, Breaker Pistol(+1B). (1.5 | 37)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    FIDDLER Drop Bears, D-Charges, Contender(+1B) / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] JACKBOT Vulkan Shotgun / . (0 | 7)
    NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO Red Fury, Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 20)
    112 (Motorized) Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 18)
    KAMEEL (Hacker, EVO Hacking Device) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 15)
    KUM Rifle, Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon. (0 | 10)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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    I am making the following Link assumptions:
    1. Ghulam and Valerya are the Core Link
    2. Rui Shi and Zuyong are the Haris
    3. Miranda and Rafiq are a Duo.
    I like this list. It has a range of specialists and neat models. If I was keeping with the base list, the only change I would recommend would be to change the Kum to the 6 point version and upgrade Miranda to Sforza pretending to be a Miranda Multi-rifle. For a tournament, you are most likely going to run into some Dog Warriors or Bearpodes and Viral will be very helpful:

    Minor Suggested Change
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]3
    GHULAM (Lieutenant [+1 Command Token]) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM (Doctor [+3]) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15)
    GHULAM Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    VALERYA GROMOZ (Hacker) Combi Rifle, Zapper, Pitcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 21)
    LIBERTO (Mimetism [-3], Minelayer]) Light Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 9)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 23)
    ZÚYǑNG (Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / CC Weapon, Breaker Pistol(+1B). (0 | 31)
    ZÚYǑNG (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Machine Gun / CC Weapon, Breaker Pistol(+1B). (1.5 | 37)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    FIDDLER Drop Bears, D-Charges, Contender(+1B) / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] JACKBOT Vulkan Shotgun / . (0 | 7)
    NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    SFORZA FTO Viral Rifle, Adhesive Launcher(+1B), Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 26)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO Red Fury, Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 20)
    112 (Motorized) Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 18)
    KAMEEL (Hacker, EVO Hacking Device) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 15)
    KUM Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 6)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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    If you would be willing to make greater changes, I would suggest you explore the following:
    1. Right now, the core fireteam is only being used for pitchers and smoke. Do you want to just use it for that? Right now you have a limited number of ranged AROs.
    2. The Rui Shi haris has most of your brute force ranged attack pieces (Rui Shi Spitfire and Zuyong HMG). If it is destroyed or in the wrong place on the board, it might make things difficult.
    3. The EVO bot seems like overkill. Maybe its points could be used for more ARO Presence.
    Good luck and I hope that this is helpful.
     
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  3. Numazokola

    Numazokola Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot!

    Miranda was mostly for the mimetism shotgun. I havnt tested it yet but the rafiq will use the sensor and pressing buttos, miranda will just follow around as a bodyguard to get into melee or shotgun anoying midfielders. Monofilament works against the bearpode??

    I tried to squeeze in a brawler multi sniper but seems that will not be hard to take out by the enemy.

    and youre right the evo hacker is just there to use the half swc haha
     
  4. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Well-Known Member

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    I totally get using Miranda, but I would be hesitant to use a mimetism shotgun version as it is best in template range (which negates your mimetism). The multi-rifle would give you some additional options. However, monofiliament does NOT work against Total Immunity: https://infinitythewiki.com/Immunity. That is why recommend Sforza. And he can hide as her (so you get to use the great model) and is a nice hidden threat.

    Below is my suggested revision:

    Minor Suggested Change v2
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]2
    GHULAM (Lieutenant [+1 Command Token]) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM (Doctor [+3]) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15)
    GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 16)
    VALERYA GROMOZ (Hacker) Combi Rifle, Zapper, Pitcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 21)
    GHULAM Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 23)
    ZÚYǑNG (Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / CC Weapon, Breaker Pistol(+1B). (0 | 31)
    ZÚYǑNG (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Machine Gun / CC Weapon, Breaker Pistol(+1B). (1.5 | 37)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    FIDDLER Drop Bears, D-Charges, Contender(+1B) / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] JACKBOT Vulkan Shotgun / . (0 | 7)
    NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    SFORZA FTO Viral Rifle, Adhesive Launcher(+1B), Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 26)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO Red Fury, Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 20)
    112 (Motorized) Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 18)
    LIBERTO (Mimetism [-3], Minelayer]) Light Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 9)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 5)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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    I inserted a cheap linked Ghulam sniper as a disposable long range ARO piece and added a spare basic Ghulam for link losses. Once the sniper dies, the basic can take its place. Plus it allows you to hide your LT somewhat. I also moved the Liberto to the second pool as another potential attack piece.

    What do you think?
     
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  5. Numazokola

    Numazokola Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking also in the ghulam FO as a cheap disposable ARO for the flash pulse. I don't know how well spent is the ghulam sniper
     
  6. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    Remember Flash Pulse no longer benefits from link bonuses, so a core-linked Sniper is much better at winning an ARO than a Flash Pulse. And if you just want a disposable single die ARO flash pulse the bots or warcor are much better.
     
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  7. Numazokola

    Numazokola Well-Known Member

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    uh awesome thanks for that haha! I will give it a go and see how it performs.
     
  8. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Adding a little change too. Unless you really feel you will need 5 command tokens, I'd take the regular Ghulam Lt. This will allow you to "upgrade" the Ghulam sniper to a ABH sniper. Better BS and who knows what it will get on booty as well. He also comes with the Breaker Pistol and PARA CC -6. Good if need to counter any CC attacks.

    Oh a fun thing to do is have Sforza disguised as another Gromoz! Confuse the hell out of them. They know one is Sforza but which one? Also maybe lure away MSV but being disguised as Ashcroft and mention her mim-6 a lot.

    Minor Suggested Change v2
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]2
    GHULAM (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    GHULAM (Doctor [+3]) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / Breaker Pistol(+1B), PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0.5 | 19)
    VALERYA GROMOZ (Hacker) Combi Rifle, Zapper, Pitcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 21)
    GHULAM Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 23)
    ZÚYǑNG (Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / CC Weapon, Breaker Pistol(+1B). (0 | 31)
    ZÚYǑNG (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Machine Gun / CC Weapon, Breaker Pistol(+1B). (1.5 | 37)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    FIDDLER Drop Bears, D-Charges, Contender(+1B) / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] JACKBOT Vulkan Shotgun / . (0 | 7)
    LIBERTO (Mimetism [-3], Minelayer]) Light Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 9)
    NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    SFORZA FTO Viral Rifle, Adhesive Launcher(+1B), Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 26)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO Red Fury, Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 20)
    112 (Motorized) Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 18)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 5)
    6 SWC | 299 Points
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