A situation from our current tournament : 2 tanko and a dayokai declare a coordinated order First skill : move Second skill : bs attack the tanko have LoF on the target but not the dayokai so the dayokai perform idle A guilang HD is in ZoC of the dayokai (but no LoF) can he hack him ? my hypothesis : the dayokai declared bs attack so he broke his stealth (as stealth is broken per déclaration) and can be hacked my opponent hypothesis : the dayokai performed idle so he is still stealthy and cannot be hacked
Good question. To me, it looks like the Dayokai has to declare BS Attack. From the Coordinated Order rule: "All participating Troopers must declare and execute the exact same sequence of Skills." "If any of the Troopers does not meet the Requirements of a Skill declared during the Coordinated Order, then they perform an Idle instead of that Skill, while the others may act normally." From the current Order Expenditure Sequence in FAQ 1.1.1, Requirements are currently checked at Resolution, not Declaration (even though almost all Requirements are known to be met or not met at Declaration). So it looks like the Dayokai has to declare BS Attack, and at Resolution we check the Requirements and find that, as we knew all along, he doesn't have LoF, so he performs an Idle. From Stealth: "If the user declares a Short Movement Skill or Cautious Movement within the Zone of Control of one or more enemies and stays outside their LoF, he does not grant AROs to those enemies." The Dayokai in this case didn't declare a Short Movement Skill (although he did, in the end, perform a Short Movement Skill), so Stealth isn't engaged.
The Daiyokai declared BS Attack, but performed Idle. Stealth cares about what you declare, it doesn't give a toss about what you actually do. https://infinitythewiki.com/Coordinated_Orders Under requirements, with bold emphasis added: "All participating Troopers must declare and execute the exact same sequence of Skills." Under effects, with bold emphasis added: "If any of the Troopers does not meet the Requirements of a Skill declared during the Coordinated Order, then they perform an Idle instead of that Skill, while the others may act normally."
In addition to the above, Idle does not have the Movement tag, so Stealth wouldn't work anyway. https://infinitythewiki.com/Stealth However, if the second Short Skill of the Order is any non-Movement Skill, then those enemies can react normally in ARO.
Huh, interesting catch. I think "Movement Skill" here must mean "Short Movement Skill or Cautious Movement," not "Skill with the Movement label." Otherwise, a trooper would break Stealth by declaring Move+Discover, but not Discover+Move.
I think that's a contradiction, because the bullet point before that says that Short Movement Skills will not cause the opponents in ZoC to gain an ARO.
Small addition : the FAQ seems to confirm that what matters is the action declared (here BS attack), not the action performed (here idle) : If several Troopers are activated at once (for example a Coordinated Order or a Fireteam) and one of them uses Stealth while outside a reactive Trooper's ZoC or Hacking Area, can the Trooper that used Stealth be chosen as the target of AROs? Yes, but the ARO will become an Idle if the Stealth user does not declare a Skill that allows AROs.
