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Big appeal to CB: Fix the new bases! Improve the assembly system!

Discussion in 'News' started by Varsovian, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Mob of Blondes

    Mob of Blondes Well-Known Member

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    ABS plastic, thicker ribs. They sure will not break easily. Happy pinning. >_<
     
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  2. Daireann

    Daireann Well-Known Member

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    Well, I should admit, that some problems were solved for me. Hated boulders under miniature legs looks actually fine IRL. On photos they looks worse than they are...

    But some of things made me ignite like I don’t know.
    Today I was cleaning miniatures of post-casting peace’s. And there was lots of thin metal where seam was.
    Seam in the middle of Tai Sheng face. And another seam on Yu Jing medic.

    Plus some lots of gaps on miniatures from Invincible starter (zuyongs mostly)
    I can’t complain about assembling design after what I saw, but this is new miniatures.
    Some of them very strange in this way.


    I need to calm down. Any ideas what could be done with it?
    Bad assembling ideas are annoying, strange place for plates to put miniatures on bases.
    Seams are in dangerous places like faces.

    For now I put my miniatures away. I don’t want to sell them again. Especially cause of this reason.
    (May be everything would be fine after some time. And I’ll stop boiling :)
     
  3. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Are you sure these are not recasts? I have never had a mold line on a face period, so this does sound a bit suspicious. You should check with your retailer and ask for a replacement.

    As for the assembly/slotting issue: I can only recommend changing your approach to cutting off the metal bar altogether and file the soles flat. I've started doing that a couple of years ago and never looked back. Freeing up the legs allows for easy alterations in pose and angle and it also solves the issue of getting the unit to face in the right direction.

    It can get iffy with some poses where there is only a small surface of a single foot making contact with the base, but these can easily be pinned.
     
  4. Daireann

    Daireann Well-Known Member

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    I’ll remember that thing. I have no resources for instruments for pinning, but it could be solved.

    To talk about mold line, I am not sure, this things could be a reason for realer to replace product, but I’ll try it too.
    Can’t say, it is suspicious too much. I bought some miniatures in different places. Mold lines on faces had Tai Sheng, Yu Jing doctor (sorry, can’t remember the name of unit) and Arianan Spec Ops (the lates. That lovely lady), so, I fear, this can’t be fixed
     
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  5. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Yeah, if it's that frequent of an issue for you, then there is something fishy going on. If you can still trace where you got those miniatures from, you might want to follow up on that and maybe even drop CB a note.
     
  6. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Rather than clipping the bar off completely it can be a good idea to cut it down to a simple peg and drill gouge a hole in the base for it, easier than pinning but still very secure.
     
  7. Daireann

    Daireann Well-Known Member

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    Indeed! Ah, my day is much better now. (It is night, but whatever)
    My hugs to you!

    And my thanks for everyone, that saw this my moment.
    Also... really sorry. Never thought to be that complainer.
     
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  8. chromedog

    chromedog Less than significant minion

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    I learned this technique as "tab pinning". I stopped using the entire tab on metal figures about 15 years ago.
     
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  9. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    I'm so stealing that name.
     
  10. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I've been doing the tab pinning for years now. Sometimes the legs may move apart but i bend them back with no problem. I then just file it down a little. Then I found if i put paint on the pegs, I can mark the base for drilling. Almost always comes out perfect. It's very secure because it's actually a part of the model.
     
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  11. nazroth

    nazroth 'well known Nomad agitator'

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    I'm super late to the party. Just wanted to say new bases are trash imho. They take so much time to work with from a pro-painter perspective. They bring me mental pain and exhaustion. I seriously hate them and am not over exaggerating.

    Not all miniatures align properly with "cross" rail way.

    Painting irregular base's edge is pain.

    Playing with protruding base's parts is pain.

    Finally - when using pins aligning miniatures is so much more annoying than on top of a smooth round base.

    Seriously Corvus Belli - the idea is great in general, especially for new players - but execution is very bad. Not user friendly. My personal take. Don't want to tell anyone they shouldn't like these new bases. I just hate them and curse the day they got released. that's all. :)
     
  12. Lawson

    Lawson Well-Known Member

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    Equally irksome to me is the fact that once you've got the LoF base on there, some poses make it impossible for a figure to face the way you want them to while also being in contact with scenery...
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    The tip of the gun here is literally preventing this Spetz from facing the way I want him to but also being in partial cover.

    I picked up some of the LoF bases from Warsen.al that I can just place 'loose' under the mini in these situations to temporarily override the base-markings for LoF:
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    It would actually be pretty cool if we could get some bases with built-in rotation (think something that's a variation on how the WizKids 'Clix' games' bases work, but just free spinning). That would solve both problems. Firstly, instead of lining up the figure to stationary LoF marks on the base, you're lining up the LoF marks to the figure after you mount it (so you could mount it straight into one of the troughs). Second, you could re-position the LoF if you ended up in a situation where you needed to for gameplay purposes.

    I realize that a lot of the existing LoF base attachments (including the ones I've shown above) are technically magnetizable and so could be moved around, but I feel like there may be a way to do something more low-profile by accommodating it into an actual base design.
     
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  13. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    I managed some pretty low-profile magnetized ones by 3D printing them: https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/what-do-you-think-about-bases.37654/#post-384589
     
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  14. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Given how CB is a fairly small company with small margins, these things are probably better outsourced. In the meanwhile, simply making sure there's a spot for a 4x2mm cylindrical magnet at the very centre of each base would make their bases compatible with Warsenal's LOF bases (and most other solutions).
    The current off-centre holes are not great.

    Bonus points if they altered their miniatures to no longer have a central tab joining the miniature's feet. The material savings is probably miniscule, but it would make fixing miniatures to bases so much easier.
     
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  15. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Some S2 have just square tabs under feet and that's just so much better.
     
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