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Is the N4 Kriza Core actually B6?

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by Sergei Simonov, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. Sergei Simonov

    Sergei Simonov Well-Known Member

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    Kriza has HMG, +1 B, +1 B from core. Is this a mimetic B6 HMG at BS 16? Am I smoking something or is there an errata coming?
     
  2. H4tter

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    Right in the first bulletpoint it reads:

    "As a special rules, in the Active Turn, this +1 Burst bonus can be combined with other bonuses or Burst MODs..." (emphasis in the original text)

    I'd say that argues for a B6 HMG.
     
  3. Dr.Lycosid

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    Downside is that it has to be in a Hollow Man link, which is costly and greatly reduces the HM team mobility. So maybe as a first turn shooter and then you break the team and reform it with another setup (which will even increase the costs)? After all, the Kriza is still very viable on its own after your break the team.

    I really wonder if Perseus (Super-Jump) would be able to link with HM e.g. after KB drops out... But I guess the Perseus FTO is supposed to be the one with Fireteam: Haris.
     
  4. ldgif

    ldgif Well-Known Member
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    Who says you need Hollowmen instead if you have Stempler and Perseus?
     
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  5. SmaggTheSmug

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    They actually did it, the absolute mad Spaniards
     
  6. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Hollow Men don't have Fireteam: Core anymore.
     
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  7. Del S

    Del S Tunguskaball

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    They do, on the fireteams list which is, um, a separate document >_<
     
  8. LunarSol

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    The Tunguska Fireteam image doesn't list them as being Core. Just that they're a Fireteam. They have the Haris and Duo fireteam skills and a bunch of things that can sub in for them in a Haris or duo.
     
  9. Knauf

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    It's the other document :P In any case, B6 Kriza appears to be real, even if it's "only" a Haris. So Nomads now not only give YJ a run for their money in terms of HI, but also PanO for shooting.
     
  10. ldgif

    ldgif Well-Known Member
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    There is nothing stopping you from running a full HM core with a Kriza, except the price.
     
  11. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Looks like it, yes.
     
  12. jfunkd

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    I don't think it's B6.
     
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  13. LunarSol

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    So it is! My bad. :)
     
  14. Knauf

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    In the Annex file we have this:

    ► In the Active Turn, the Team Leader can apply a +1 bonus to the Burst (B) value of their BS Weapons, including Throwing Weapons but excluding Technical Weapons. As a special rule, in the Active Turn, this +1 Burst bonus can be combined with other bonuses or Burst MODs provided by other rules, Special Skills, Equipment, or Hacking Programs.
     
  15. ldgif

    ldgif Well-Known Member
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    I don’t think that includes the FT
    Modifier. The FT rules clearly state it stacks with other burst modifiers currently.
     
  16. jfunkd

    jfunkd hard forum hittin Carlos
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    ah ok. Thanks!

    Edit: The two rules seem contradictory though.
     
  17. ldgif

    ldgif Well-Known Member
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    IJW confirmed on another thread that with the current FT rules, KB does get B6
     
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  18. HardDisk

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    could you post the link please?
     
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  20. Darkinga

    Darkinga Nómada Nómada

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    Corvus says, never one troop roll plus 5 dices, +1Burst no stack another +1B . So max dice for roll alwais be 5

    Appart of this, Kriza borak can join in any hollow fireteam and this is great. In a Core gain +3bs and SS.
     
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