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Small Karakuri buff maybe incoming

Discussion in 'Japanese Secessionist Army' started by ambisinister, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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  2. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    One of the important notes in that blogpost is that models are going to have a note like: Total Immunity (Vulnerability: Viral) [ probable example from Dog Warriors ]
     
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  3. Paradur

    Paradur Fukurô Keibi
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    Yeahh.. I would assume vulnerability EM. But let's see..
     
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  4. Fire@Will

    Fire@Will Well-Known Member

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    Well, the profile didn't get updated, and the rules have been released on pdf:

    This is an extra clause;

    » In addition, players can choose between making an ARM Roll or BTS
    Roll, choosing the most advantageous for them.

    So... ARM 6 Karakuri, impervious to everything?
     
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  5. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    Karakuris are now 3pts expensive than before.
     
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  6. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    Well worth it.
     
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  7. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    That makes the Karakuri a lot more interesting.
    In a Haris with B2 Chainrifles having ARM6(9) sure is nice.
    Makes them a heck of a lot more resilent vs CC as well, Mono, Viral, DA, AP, EXP ccws all do jack against them now.

    Even better they don't give a damn about E/M either (although they might take a pip of damage).
    Super nice.
     
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  8. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    Karakuri are a heck of a lot better now. Their inability to dodge E/M grenades was a huge detriment before and now it's just a minor inconvenience.
     
  9. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Immune to stun/Flash is very nice too
     
  10. Quickit

    Quickit Well-Known Member

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    So they can't be flash pulsed? What happens if someone does? There's no normal damage to a flash pulse. We just ignore it? That's amazing if that's right. Same with E/M - If we're immune to it, and there's no normal damage, they just ignore a hit from E/M weapons?
     
  11. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Flash Pulse is ignored because it is non lethal, no roll is made, no Guts roll.

    EM is not non-lethal so you can use TI to convert it to normal ammo.
     
  12. Abrilete

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    Wait, what?
    They are like mini-TAGs now!
     
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    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Brutal!
     
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  14. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    The fact that the tiny Geishabotsi can shake of AP+EXP and Mono hits like nothing while the Oyoroi just kinda sits there and cries is my only complaint.
    Excellent Datatracker choice now, JSA had space for that.
     
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  15. Fire@Will

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    It's also Optional. So, if you get hit by something like E/M, which doesn't automatically cause damage, you can choose to roll BTS against the effect, not the damage.
     
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  16. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    You can, but I'd rather take a wound against ARM6 than IMM2+Isolated.

    This makes the best weapon against Karakuri a gluegun. IMM2 on PH4!
     
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  17. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    I'm playing in a tournament with 2 objective room missions and you can bet your ass i'm playing a karakul haris in both of them
     
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  18. Quickit

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    May want to change the title of the post. This is not a small buff....:grinning:. I've always been a fan of the Karakuri, but now they're absolutely indispensable. I don't know if i can write a list without a Haris. One Mk12, the heavy shotgun, and the Combi costs 120/0.5. This has so much more staying power than an O-Yoroi at 88/2 it's crazy. I'll really miss my O-Yo....
     
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  19. Daimeow

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    Nope, gluegun is non-lethal => dolls ignore it completely. Best weapon against them is jammer I suppose, since it comms and dont covered by total immune rule.
     
  20. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    No. Timmune cannot ignore Glues.
     
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