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How about that Dahshat mercenary company, huh?

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Joametz, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    So...

    Pros to play IA is Hac Tao*, Haidao, Tai Sheng and Daoying.
    Pros to play Dahshat is Ghulam, smoke+MSV2, Core or Haris Rui Shi, Sforza (inkl Holo1 wildcard), cheaper Engineer, better doctors, better and cheaper TAG, more cheap order REMs (muls and "chaiyi"), Saito, and ABH that can link with Zuyong (or is that Sforza? Get into LOF and find out)

    Why even play IA? (Yes, I'm not mentioning stuff like Shang-Ji or Al Fasid that I find situational to "merely" good)

    * I still haven't found a Hac Tao IA list that isn't better rebuilt as vanilla.
     
  2. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    They don’t have the tac aware zuyong hmg, just the tac aware haris,but that’s a small pittance. Also they gave the maggie a mine dispenser, so the guija can get an even sadder trombone.
     
  3. Janzerker

    Janzerker Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't say they can be compared. For starters as there's no Duo for Zuyongs in Dashat it means there's no TacAw HMG profile for them. Only the Haris Tac Aw. And the choice of YuJIng stuff is limited: 4 Zuyong , 1 Zencha , 1 Hulang, 1 Rui Shi and 1 Lu Duan .. With that you can try to replicate, as much, one list that would compare to IA getting the benefits of smoke and such, cheap skirmishers and such. Otherwise you are just building a typical Haqq spam list with just a few ocasional YJ pieces.
     
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  4. LuAn

    LuAn New Member

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    So, this is legal?
    Dahshat Company
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    [​IMG]5
    SFORZA FTO (Holoprojector L1) Viral Rifle + Adhesive Launcher, Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 28)
    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 23)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    ZÚYǑNG HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 35)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)

    3 SWC | 118 Points

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  5. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    It's not so much replicating IA as it is playing with most of their strengths and the ability to not have to take their drawbacks.
    IA is fairly linear in their construction; nearly everything operates on line of fire without much in the way of CH MODs and few templates. If you do want to replicate IA with Dahshat you can, but you'll have to accept that you're going to get more diverse tools on the units you pick up and an order density that's spread more traditionally.

    The lack of TacAware HMG is good, and I did miss that, but I don't think this is enough to make IA stand out and overcome the inherent vulnerability to both damage and hacking. I'm looking at Shang-Ji's failure to make Zuyong fireteams diverse and interesting as the primary offender with the price tag on them the biggest culprit.
     
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  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Yes. That's 4 Zuyong with 1 Rui Shi. Add a dog/Fasid/ninja and a Hacker to make all your friends upset.
     
  7. Janzerker

    Janzerker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and the next too

    Dahshat Company
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    [​IMG]5
    BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)

    2.5 SWC | 89 Points

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  8. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    Zhencha with Hunzakuts? Yes please.

    But hey, we got Hacty and Mowang!
     
  9. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    Top kek. Literally bursted out in laughter, I didnt even think of making a "Zuyong" link with no Zuyongs. xD
     
  10. gorin

    gorin Well-Known Member

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    All you need is kill

    Dahshat Company
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism, Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 11)
    McMURROUGH 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Templar CCW (AP + DA). (0 | 32)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    HUNZAKUT (Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    HUNZAKUT (Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    GROUP 3[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2
    LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism, Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 11)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    5 SWC | 298 Points
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  11. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    So much for IA hypes.
     
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  12. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    Surely the Zencha AVA must be a mistake? I mean that totally undermines IA. I'm fine with the Zuyongs but the Zencha breaks the camel's back IMO.
     
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    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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  14. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    It's not about the AVA. Usually you'll see between 1-2 of Zencha's in IA. It's about the fact that the Zencha operates under (normally) very strict order limitations or competition (in vanilla), whereas this sectorial can have him troll around in a sectorial with 20 plus orders, so he's never leeching orders from main attack pieces.
     
  15. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    Looks like they also got dirt cheap mimetic libertos profiles as well.
     
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  16. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure if it takes away from IA but pretty damn close! I know I'm going to do the below!

    Dahshat Company
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    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    ZÚYǑNG Lieutenant (AutomediKit) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1 | 39)
    ZÚYǑNG Boarding Shotgun / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 26)
    ZÚYǑNG Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 29)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    McMURROUGH 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Templar CCW (AP + DA). (0 | 32)
    HÚLÁNG Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, E/M Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 44)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)

    3.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  17. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    Fun thing; Hulangs will rock at Dashat. Everything he need lies on that company.

    Not in IA, for now.
     
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  18. Tibooper

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    It is to wonder for which sectorial he was conceived...
     
  19. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Though... Saito is still going to be better, so not sure that's saying a lot about Hulang...
     
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