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Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by KaiAgni, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. KaiAgni

    KaiAgni Member

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    With the entirety of the my Morats painted I am ready now more than ever to field them in a local mid tier tournament.

    Our meta has about equal number experienced players to new players. Tournament with be hosting up to 12, likely 6 or 8.
    I am not a highly competitive player, not in my nature, but I want to be competitive player.

    I will also turnout lists for days undecided.
    Doubt I will be able to practice either.


    The missions are as follows

    Frontline
    Transmission Matrix
    Frostbyte

    Any suggested lists and strategies for these missions?

    Event is on Feb 16th
     
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    [​IMG] 14 order──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10 [​IMG] KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)[​IMG] SURYAT (Tactical Awareness) HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 48)[​IMG] SURYAT (Tactical Awareness) HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 48)[​IMG] SURYAT (Tactical Awareness) HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 48)[​IMG] RAKTORAK Combi Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)[​IMG] MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)[​IMG] MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)[​IMG] MORAT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)[​IMG] RODOK Hacker (EI Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)[​IMG] RAKTORAK (NCO) Vulkan Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24) 6 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    Frostbyte list
     
  3. Lesh'

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    Hello!

    What is the tournament format? is it Limited Insertion (single combat group)? Or you just want to stick to single combat group cause you're afraid you're not experienced enough? I'll try to post few ideas later on today or in next few days.
     
  4. Skjarr

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    I'm off to a LI tournament at the weekend and this is one of the lists I'm toying with.
    A Kornak, Raktorak, Suryat link with a Rodok Haris for support.
    It brings a smattering of specialists and plenty of guns.
    I reckon it could do a job for Frontline and Frostbyte.

    [​IMG] Vap3
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    [​IMG]10 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)
    [​IMG] SURYAT Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 39)
    [​IMG] SURYAT HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 45)
    [​IMG] SURYAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 37)
    [​IMG] RAKTORAK Vulkan Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] RODOK (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] RODOK HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] RODOK Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] KRAKOT RENEGADE Submachine Gun, Chest Mine / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  5. KaiAgni

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    Standard ITS as mentioned
    and Frostbyte is a limited insertion mission .

    Experience is decent, I have the sectorial.
    I believe that I haven't explored all my strategic options and I would like to learn more .
     
  6. Lesh'

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    Frostbyte is not LI, it was during Kurage crisis campaign. There was an error in the doc at the beginning of ITSX , but it got updated.
     
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  7. Sabin76

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    Hmm, I'm not seeing much point in spending the 2 points on NCO, but I also can't seem to find where you would put those points and keep the core of the list. Maybe lose the Vulcan Shotty altogether and just get another combi-HFT Raktorak, but that seems a waste, as I always like to try out that fire damage on BS+6. Which Raktorak were you thinking of putting in your vanguard link?

    What about removing the NCO Raktorak, dropping a FO vanguard to a regular and putting in Anyat for some smoke and utility?
     
  8. Reyzah

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    I'd recommend finding room for a Rasyat in Frostbyte. D-charges under cover of eclipse smoke are great for destroying heaters in the last turn. Even easier now the rules about where you can drop have changed.
    An E-Drone in Transmat is also great for tying up links with exile.
     
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  9. KaiAgni

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    The NCO is a fill for points . It is there for if/when Kornat dies . So the Lt order can be used later

    Yes I have considered shuffling to fit in Anyat.
     
  10. KaiAgni

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    I will post a Rasat list next .
     
  11. clever handle

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    I've run the 3 Tactical Awareness HMG deathstar and I don't really like it. Unlike Invincible Army where they can get multiple different tools inside that link team to address multiple threats, with the Morat version, you're stuck with all your SWC in HMG's and all in relatively the same spot on the table. As soon as you run into something you can't reliably kill with an HMG you've run into a brick wall (assault hacker prone on a roof / noctifer in cover outside 32" / etc).

    This is my go to generalist MAF list. I think it would work well for most of the missions - In frostbyte you will be forced to turn on at least one heater due to a lack of HI, but with zero hackable elements and a strong aggressive playstyle I feel this list is great for both transmission matrix and frontline:

    if you're going first, start with the link on the Hungry team, move them forward to claim the midfield with exploding bodies and dogged chainrifles, then move your link over to the rodok team to establish long range fire superiority. Use the Yaogat to snipe any vulnerable ARO pieces through smoke. The Rasyat and Zerats run interference and support.

    16 Orders
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]2
    RODOK Lieutenant Combi Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    RODOK Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    RODOK Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    RODOK Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    RODOK HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
    YAOGAT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    ZERAT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    ZERAT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]5
    RASYAT Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, D-Charges, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 31)
    OZNAT Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 18)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    4.5 SWC | 300 Points
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    this next list may work well for Frostbyte: It give you the opportunity to form some interesting and varied links - I'd probably form the 5-man core around the TA HMG, and use the Sogorat and Raktorak to push forwards and turn on buttons. Alternatively you could use a 4-man core with a Haris built around Kornak, the Raktorak and the Suryat. This list gives you 12 orders in a LI setting, and believe it or not that Full Auto Sogorat is worth every one of his points in my experience

    Morat Aggression Force
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    MORAT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    MORAT Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 19)
    MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    SURYAT (Tactical Awareness) HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 48)
    SOGARAT (Full Auto L2) Feuerbach / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 67)
    RAKTORAK (NCO) Vulkan Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    KURGAT (Support Group) Autocannon, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 28)
    KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)
    OZNAT Stalker Unit (Sensor) Vulkan Shotgun, Smoke Grenades + 1 Sync Preta / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] SYNC PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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  12. KaiAgni

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    Link please, I am involved in organizing the tournament and before I talk to my other organizers I need a solid link please.

    I just redownload the Season X pdf . Limited Insertion is still listed.
     
  13. clever handle

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    So I haven't played Transmission Matrix that much, it was just a game or two, and it was long time ago.
    Back then I used something like this
    Morat Aggression Force
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]5
    OZNAT Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 18)
    OZNAT Vulkan Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 20)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28)
    YAOGAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 29)
    YAOGAT (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    YAOGAT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]1
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    RODOK Hacker (EI Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)

    3.5 SWC | 297 Points

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    I've managed to park all of my REMs and hackers outside of TM antennas. E-Drone is really good here - while parked outside of ZoC of the Antenna, if enemy link team is within their ZoC of Antenna, you can break the team using Exile. Killer Hacker is there to take care of enemy hackers if your opponent decided to go heavy on the info-war side. Though, keep in mind, that back then, KHD spot was for Bit and Kiss, who is no longer part of MAF sectorial, and I can't comment on whether Rodok is a good substitute for her in this mission. Yaogat sniper I think can be substituted for Spitfire, and you can play a bit with loadouts to free enough points to include a Rasyat instead of Krakot, for example. Roster was kinda ok, it was a draw against OCF, but I did few mistakes, so I think I could have made a minor victory there
     
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  16. Lesh'

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    For Frostbyte maybe I'd try something like this, though perhaps I'd move Q-drone to the first group
    Unmasking the Safe Area
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]1
    MORAT Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    MORAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)
    MORAT Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    SURYAT (Tactical Awareness) HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 48)
    RAKTORAK (NCO) Vulkan Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]7
    OZNAT Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 18)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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    But During autumn before 3OF updates I've used something like this:
    Morat Aggression Force
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]5
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    OZNAT Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 18)
    OZNAT Vulkan Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 20)
    E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28)
    ZERAT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    RASYAT Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 28)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    RASYAT Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 28)
    ZERAT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    MORAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)

    2.5 SWC | 299 Points

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  17. KaiAgni

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    [​IMG] Morat Aggression Force
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    RODOK Hacker (EI Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    [​IMG] RODOK HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)[​IMG] RODOK Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)[​IMG] RODOK Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)[​IMG] RODOK Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)[​IMG] YAOGAT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34)[​IMG] RASYAT Spitfire, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 34)[​IMG] KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)[​IMG] SURYAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 37)[​IMG] SURYAT Vulkan Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 37) 6 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army


    This is a list that I think might work for Frostbyte .

    Any suggestions what Am I missing?
     
  18. DaRedOne

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    If you want to use an AD trooper, I'd recomend using two groups. I don't like having two groups in Frostbyte, but if I were to use it, I would go for:

    Morat Aggression Force
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]4
    KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)
    SURYAT (Tactical Awareness) HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 48)
    RAKTORAK Combi Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    OZNAT Vulkan Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 20)
    RAKTORAK Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    RASYAT Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 28)
    MORAT Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    This gives you plenty of orders to push forward on the first turn, and saves your Rasyat for turn 2-3 when he can make the most damage. You will have to fight for control of the heating units, though.
     
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  19. TheDiceAbide

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    For Transmission Matrix, don't be that afraid of taking HI. Morats ignore the worst of the hacking programs, and worst case you get IMM-1, and are probably stuck sitting in a scoring area.
     
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  20. KaiAgni

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    Thanks very much. Back on the list grind .
    I really enjoy you 16 order list.

    I am going to mettle with it a bit and post.

    Is there any suggestions you might have considering 3rdOffensive rules changes?
     
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