Unfortunately Army has never contained all the information required for Fireteams. The most reliable source is http://infinitythewiki.com/en/List_of_Fireteams because that gets updated more regularly than Army or the PDFs. And again, having the relevant Special Skill is not enough, the Fireteam must also be listed in the relevant Sectorial Chart. I'd love for Army to include all the info, but it doesn't, and isn't going to for the foreseeable future.
just for curiosity's sake, has a discrepency problem like this been an issue before NA2 was introduced?
Tripe. Unless and until CB has an "if we wrote our rules wrong send an email here" address that they actually read and update the rules with, this is what they're going to get. As of right now, as far as I can tell, we're being ignored.
As pointed out by @colbrook Fireteam: Core isn’t a skill and thus shouldn’t appear. The error is that it’s on any profile, not that it’s absent on ISS Wu Ming.
Yes, since HSN3 and the updated Fireteam rules came out. The prime example being Umbra Samaritans in Onyx, who have the Fireteam: Haris Skill, but can only form a Special Haris with 1 Samaritan + 2 Xeodrons.
So the more we discuss this. The more obvious it is that fireteam descriptions have to be rewritten / included in army in a clear and easy to understand manner.
FWIW, from memory I believe the CSU updated profiles dropped around CanCon this year (late January). Not in conjunction with NA2. So if ball was dropped, it was also prior to all the Uprising stuff. EDIT - I think it was ISS tweaks at the same time. EDIT EDIT - @AdmiralJCJF was the earliest reference I could see on the PanO forum - https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/csus-in-nca.3478/ which was late March
I don't understand where the confusion is. It could be just me. But I go off the list of approved fireteam options for that sectorial (pdf or wiki) and only use the "army" tool as a complementary source, not an exclusive rules source (but I've NEVER used an online/offline army builder program/app as a sole rules source going back to N2 and ORA).
Yeah, I don't know know about you but last time I checked immense inconsistency we have right now is pretty good reason to get confused. Fact that we do not get redundant fireteam: core, fireteam: haris descriptions in profiles while in Vanilla makes it pretty logical for most of us to assume that when we see aforementioned options in sectorials they are in fact an option and not just some lazy formating. Example: Wu Ming core in Ikari. In other words if you can get rid off fireteam descriptions for profiles in Vanilla, why would you keep those descriptions in sectorials if they in fact shouldn't be there either? I can understand that there are people that do not get confused (for various reasons) but to not even comprehend how that might be confusing for someone else(especially for less experienced players like me) is just plainly unimaginative.
Well. no - I can't see how it could be confusing for a newbie without myself being aone (and I stopped being one of those when N2 was in its infancy). This is called "lack of common frame of reference" - but I don't understand 90% of other gamers at the best of times - generally the only thing we have in common is we both play games. I don't do computer games as well, I don't do comics,have zero love for lotr or AGoT or play boardgames, either. I'm not a pokemon syndrome sufferer and I will not put an unpainted model on the table. I don't have OCD issues about differing scales within miniature lines. That's enough to put me apart from 90% of other gamers out there.
As a general question: what, honestly speaking, is the way to submit complaints? Because a post on the forum may as well be P*ss in the wind for all we can see. Apparently saying it louder gets mod voice out so.....is there like an email address or something I should use if I have an idea or suggestion? Because if such a channel genuinely exists, I'm sure people would be happy to use it in a civil manner.
Is this a bad fucking joke? I fucking bought an Icestorm CSU for this. Are you fucking kidding me why am I even surprised at the incompetence from this company....
So for months, ISS and NCA had CSU that had Duo in the Army Creator. and yet neither were allowed to use it? ISS apparently can't even take CSU. So why did they even have in there? Also, CSU with Duo in the new Aleph OSS is Very recent. I'd like to know who decided that CSU were not allowed to have Fire team: Duo, even though it was the Army Creator?
Why are you necro'ing a thread to ask a question you already asked in the Fireteam Creation Summary thread. Having the skill isn't enough, you also need permission from the Sectorial Army List, the most up to date version of which is on the Wiki here http://infinitythewiki.com/en/List_of_Fireteams#Neoterran_Capitaline_Army
Neither answers my question. Why did the army builder, have Duo for months and then decided by someone that it wasn't okay to have it? They were only allowed in ISS and NCA. Why is it okay to have it in an official army creator but another "official" side says they can't?
