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Druze Bayram Security Observations

Discussion in 'Druze Bayram Security' started by Reece, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. Reece

    Reece EI Aspect
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    Overall, they look sweet!

    I've noticed there's no Doc and no troops classified as Veteran, Elite, or Headquarters. No bueno for HVT: Kidnapping or Hunting Party.

    Also, Saito gets a Spec Op profile and Scarface picked up an HRL.
     
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  2. Flipswitch

    Flipswitch Sepsitorised by Intent

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    Well found a second use for my Druze Hacker!
     
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  3. Reece

    Reece EI Aspect
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    So, it looks like all I have to do is pick up a box of Druze and I have over 80% of this army already!

    The only things I don't have are the Anaconda (not likely to use) and the Haqq options. I could definitely see using a Hunzakut. I'm up the air about Bashi Bozouks,
     
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  4. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    I can only say...
    [​IMG] Druze Bayram Security
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    GRUPO 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9
    [​IMG] ARSLAN Teniente Fusil MULTI, Escopeta Ligera / Pistola Viral, Cuchillo. (0 | 36)
    [​IMG] DRUSO Hacker (Disp. de Hacker Asesino) Fusil Combi + Pitcher, Cargas-D / Pistola Viral, Cuchillo. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Ingeniero Fusil + Escopeta Lig. Cargas-D / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] CLIPPER DRONBOT Lanzamisiles Inteligente / Pulso Eléctrico. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] KAMEEL (Barreminas, Repetidor) Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] KAMEEL (Barreminas, Repetidor) Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] NASMAT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] NASMAT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] Brawler Spec-Ops (12 XP) (VOL:15, Médico, Ingeniero, Hiperdinámica N1) Fusil, Escopeta Ligera / Pistola, Cuchillo, Arma CC EXP. (0 | 17)

    GRUPO 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]5
    [​IMG] BASHI BAZOUK (Operativo Especialista) Fusil + Escopeta Lig. / Pistola, Arma CC. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] BASHI BAZOUK Subfusil, Chain-colt / Pistola, Arma CC. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] HUNZAKUT (Observ. de Artillería y Repetidor de Posición) Fusil + Escopeta Lig. Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] HUNZAKUT (Observ. de Artillería y Repetidor de Posición) Fusil + Escopeta Lig. Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] DRUSO Ametralladora, Chain-colt / Pistola Viral, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 29)
    [​IMG] DRUSO (Visor X) Fusil Combi, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Pistola Viral, Cuchillo. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Aerocam) Pulso Flash / Pistola Aturdidora, Cuchillo. (0 | 3)

    3 CAP | 276 Puntos

    Abrir en Infinity Army
    Add Valerya Gromoz in Group 1 for the link, because if I do the Army breaks XD

    So, group 2 marks targets (hunzakut) and can cap objectives (hunzakut, Bashi Bazouk...) and has two guys... Could kick the nasmats and make a haris for brawlers, though (HRL) and add some more cheerleaders, but...
     
  5. Reece

    Reece EI Aspect
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    Eh, order spam just isn't my thing. I'm usually a single combat group guy. I'll toy with 14 orders or so on rare occasions.

    How do you feel about Bashi Bozouks in this army? They're irregular, mediocre BS, and no great weapon loadouts. Holo2 IS sweet though. I could see the Boarding Shotgun get some use. But with AD:L1, you gotta really be careful about picking the right side.
     
  6. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Group 1: Guided missile spam... at CD 12 + 3 + 6... 21? XD Five orders for that, then move the fireteam and/or the Specops (which would be a Medic if no Specops allowed).
    Group 2: marking targets duty, objective grabbing duty , and parachuting duty...

    I don't feel really bad about the Bashi Bazouk, I'm used to them as killy only, so... That being said, I tend to go with the SMG option for the AP/Shock ammo (and SF, and HoloN2 so you don't know if he's carrying E/M weapons...). Having them as specialists is interesting.
    I feel really bad about those WP12 medic/engineers, though XD
     
  7. Aldo

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    Read Guided again.
     
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  8. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    I assume you point to that line there. However, no other troop in the game (not even Haiduks) has Intelligent Missile Launcher and links, and the list is limited. An official post will be welcome, and I doubt this can be really discussed, since the bugs in the Army point to a rushed out implementation.
     
  9. Aldo

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    Which part of "etc..." at the end of the list makes it limited?
     
  10. Reece

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    So, definitely no mod for the +3 BS in a large Fireteam. But... what about the +1 B mod? ;)
     
  11. zlavin

    zlavin Well-Known Member

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    • When using the Guided Trait, the weapon's B is always 1, ignoring all possible bonuses and Modifiers.
     
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  12. Aldo

    Aldo Spare 15

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    Which part of "the weapon B is always 1 ignoring all possible bonuses and modifiers" did you miss?
     
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  13. Reece

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    Uhm.... obviously the entire line. ;)

    Are you angry this morning? Would you like some coffee?
     
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  14. Aldo

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    I hate coffe.

    But I would like it if people read the rules. Its not hard.
    It really isn't.

    Its not even about memorising, just read them before asking about them or talking about them.
     
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  15. Reece

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    You're absolutely correct. I am very sorry. ;) I assumed you guys were all going on about the BS mod rules and skimmed the rest, missing the bullet point.

    He's right though, it's a totally new option. I don't think there's anything wrong with EXCITEDLY going over the possibilities and brain storming cool stuff without having to dig in to the rules overmuch. It's just FUN.

    Getting shot down by a rules quote is all part of it. ;)
     
  16. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Guided does not allow it. Normal fire, even using guided, would go at CD15 B2, without doubt. And you can add Supportware to ignore Cover and make the ammo shock as well (so no -3 to roll and no +3 to ARM mwahahahaha).
     
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  17. Reece

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    Yeah, I've been taking advantage of this with the Unidrons for a while. My favorite is the Plasma Sniper! ;) It's cool to see someone else (another army I'm planning on playing) get the fun stuff too.
     
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    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    There is a difference, though... The Guided Missile launcher ir 1 point more expensive and changes EXP for DA, but has NO negative range! So you either roll at B2 CD12 (no Assisted Fire, enemy in cover), B2 CD15 (enemy not in cover, and worst cases of distance) or B2 CD18 (best case of distance!)
     
  19. tox

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    21 firing in normal way at a Targeted model.
    Why no one is used to it...
     
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  20. Reece

    Reece EI Aspect
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    Then you just sync your HVT before you move in to LoF. ;P

    It really is a unique setup though, allowing the Missile Bot in a link. I hope we see more fun stuff like this in the future.
     
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