Sad to agree. Actually he's better than the Mech-Engineer. The Haido is not bad but expensive. Unfortunately I can't take the Monstrucker in Ikari & Dahshat.
Like all mercs some factions will get more mileage out of than others. For example for back line engineering Nomads have the Clockmaker maker who is more reliable and for up the table theres the Tomcat. Ariadna have the Irmandinhos who can keep pace for free and are a little more reliable. But armies like Pano with the machinist who is fairly awful at his job are going to flock to the Monstrucker. Same goes for the Krakot in factions that already have access to good cheap warband troops. at the end of the day Mercs are fine, and are one of the bonuses for playing vanilla factions.
Adding in the yet more Mercs just for fun! I'd actually play this I think. Yu Jing ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 7 3 2 ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) AÏDA SWANSON 2 Submachine Gun, Viral Mines / Viral Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 24) JÄGER Submachine Gun + E/Mitter / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18) KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14) KENDRAT Vulkan Shotgun, Chest Mines / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 24) LIBERTO Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8) MAJOR LUNAH Viral Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) WILD BILL Contender / 2 MULTI Pistols, Knife. (0 | 25) GROUP 2 3 1 KNAUF MULTI Sniper / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) ARMAND (Minelayer) MULTI Sniper, Nanopulser, Antipersonnel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (1.5 | 42) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) HAWKWOOD (Chain of Command) Red Fury, Nanopulser / MULTI Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (1 | 45) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Kestrelboner is expensive but definitely worth a try, higher tier shooting, near-HI level resilience, and potential specialist makes him a great secondary rambo or switch hitter.
took me awhile ton find this thread, but with the added vanilla mercs, i was starting to look at how many models/pts of "vanilla merc" (not looking at various merc added to specific faction or sectorials) we now have and recalled a similar thread that did the exercise already. I started by doing a Nomad (Kusanagi +SWC), adding Fiddler, and when I tried a similar list in YuJing (Crane +SWC) I realized Fiddler is not an AVA "all generic armies". The list are interesting, I might play it, but is starting to be ARO heavy (Armand MSR, Knauf MSR, Oktavia ML). The new MBH red fury at 0.5swc is nice, makes a change from Krakot red fury. Okay mine coverage with armand mine FD4", liberto mine FD8", liberto himself FD8" and Aida FD4". My nomad list uses a REM Raced Stempler (not enough Pts for the stronger REMs). Soon, we get to add TAG Raid stuff like Triphammer and Prospectors.
Yeah, Eventually, we won't need Yu Jing to play Yu Jing. It's getting a little ridiculous. Since that post I did before they've added more and then we have the below stuff coming as well. ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 7 2 AÏDA SWANSON Submachine Gun(+1B), Viral Mines / Viral Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 12) BOUNTY HUNTER Combi Rifle / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 15) BOUNTY HUNTER Combi Rifle / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 15) CUBE JÄGER (Paramedic) Submachine Gun, E/Mitter / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0.5 | 19) KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) MAJOR LUNAH VIRAL Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 29) LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 8) REM RACER (Hacker, RemDriver [+1 BS], Hacking Device) Submachine Gun ( ) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 21) GROUP 2 4 3 3 TÁOWÙ (Counterintelligence) Nanopulser(+2B), Flash Pulse(+1B) / Viral Pistol(+1B), Monofilament CC Weapon. (0 | 25) LIANG KAI Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 21) HAWKWOOD (Chain of Command) Red Fury, Nanopulser(+1B) / MULTI Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (1 | 45) DĀOYĪNG (Lieutenant [+1 Order]) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Chain-colt(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 8) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Chain-colt(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 8) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse ( ) / Stun Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army
After TAG Raid release you'll have prospectors, remotes, non-faction TAGs + hackers/engineers. It's already done.
Two things... 1) Apart from being a meme list is it actually a good list? I would guess not that hot, so the faction you choose is still important for playing the game. 2) You still need a Yu Jing LT, so the best faction would be the one with the best LT choice. The Daoying!
It's low on specialists and merc skirmishers are quite far between still, though Kunai aren't in that list. Given that there's a CoC in there - albeit one of the active specialists - maybe running this in a faction who can field a relatively cheap specialist LT would be wise to optimise.
Looks like a really cool challenge list, but probably not a fantastic list for winning events lol. Could it be improved? Probably worth fitting a triphammer in as the list has only a red fury and a (above average) MULTI Sniper for firepower.. plus it's a specialist lol. Maybe upgun some of those bounty hunters and hope it's not a button mashing mission
Yes the Daoying in that list but since he's camo you don't see him! lol. I was trying to make a list that's really just to show a point. That mercs are getting a bit out of hand. I actually really like some of them too! Major Lunah is a staple. Also Liberto, ABH, and Monstrucker. Here is making the Daoying the Hacker Lt., added Monstrucker, ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 7 3 1 AÏDA SWANSON Submachine Gun(+1B), Viral Mines / Viral Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 12) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 12) LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 8) KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) LIANG KAI Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 21) CUBE JÄGER (Paramedic) Submachine Gun, E/Mitter / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0.5 | 19) REM RACER (Hacker, RemDriver [+1 BS], Hacking Device) Submachine Gun ( ) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 21) MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) HAWKWOOD (Chain of Command) Red Fury, Nanopulser(+1B) / MULTI Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (1 | 45) GROUP 2 3 3 2 DĀOYĪNG (Lieutenant [+1 Order], Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 30) TÁOWÙ (Counterintelligence) Nanopulser(+2B), Flash Pulse(+1B) / Viral Pistol(+1B), Monofilament CC Weapon. (0 | 25) MAJOR LUNAH VIRAL Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 29) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse ( ) / Stun Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Chain-colt(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 8) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Chain-colt(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 8) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Here's a Haqq list with the Halfza Lt. looking like a bounty hunter! ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 1 HAFZA (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) AÏDA SWANSON Submachine Gun(+1B), Viral Mines / Viral Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) KRAKOT RENEGADE Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades / DA CC Weapon, Heavy Pistol. (0 | 14) OKTAVIA Missile Launcher, Contender / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 28) MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) FIDDLER Contender(+1B), Drop Bears, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 42) 2X JACKBOT Vulkan Shotgun / . (0 | 14) DRUZE (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Pitcher, D-Charges ( ) / Viral Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) REM RACER (Hacker, RemDriver [+1 BS], Hacking Device) Submachine Gun ( ) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 21) KAPLAN (Doctor) Combi Rifle, Blitzen ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 27) GROUP 2 1 3 1 LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 8) ARMAND (Minelayer) MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Shock Mines / Breaker Pistol(+1B), Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 38) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Chain-colt(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 8) WARCOR (Sixth Sense) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
Fair enough, it's been a funny thing you can do with Vanilla lists for a while. I was half expecting there to be a grand housekeeping event with the N4 launch, where all the N3 merc profiles were swept back into the Merc section of the army builder and no longer available to all the vanilla factions without an ITS extra. That would have kept them playable while more unique in the sectorials or factions where they really belong... and would clear the rosters for future ITS season minis to be more impactful. This happened for one or two profiles, as I think Yu Jing lost access to Kendrat.
More mercs to come? Finally a figure I really like! The Yu Jing Monster Hunter is fantastic looking! To bad most will never get it due to needing buy into this. But she looks cool.
It literally doesn't matter. Most mercs are worst version of standard archetypes and barely worth taking. (Liberto and Motorized Bounter Hunters being notable exceptions) All this does is let people run a merc themed list with whatever flavour of faction they choose. A list with 10+ mercenary isn't going to be competitive, why does it matter if people can play some sort of flavoured list?
