How does Coup de Grâce work?

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  1. Methuselah

    Methuselah Well-Known Member

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    I am wondering how Coup de Grâce works and have a few questions:

    1. Does it cause a state or does it cause a model to take wounds? From the CC Attack rule, it appears to cause state = dead, but Protheion works when a Coup de Grâce is preformed (and Protheion only works when a wound is inflicted).
    2. If a model with Protheion performs a Coup de Grâce against a model with Remote Presence who is unconscious 1, will the model with Protheion gain one wound or two?​

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    From previous discussions, it’s possible that the example is in error and failed to be correctly updated from N3.
     
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    Does Coup de Grâce work on dogged and NWI units too?
     
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    No, you need to be in the actual unconscious or shasvastii embryo states.
     
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    No, because those models aren’t in the Unconscious state, or are ignoring all of the effects of that state. Just like in the previous edition.
     
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    A model in Unc 1 with Remote Presence has Structure not Wounds. The Protheion trooper can't eat any wounds from them.

    Everything with Wounds only has one Unconscious state.

    This question is moot.
     
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    Good point. Question 2 is moot. Question 1 is still outstanding...
     
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    Question 1 is moot: the example tells you to increment the Power Up if you successfully CDG.

    So my answer would be "it causes straight to dead, but Protheion gets 1 power-up anyway because the example tells you to".

    We know that CB buries explanation of rules / un-mentioned clauses to rules in the examples, this is just another instance of this.
     
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    https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/monofilament-vorpal-and-protheion.37984/#post-375224
     
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